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Inspired by a conversation a couple secrets ago: how do you think character A of your various OTPs or platonic duos would react if character B died, and vice versa? And do you have any canon evidence (real deaths, mistaken deaths or discussion of the issue) to back it up, or are you just speculating?

Most of them would probably be devastated, but one of them has had death happen so many times it probably warrants a 'meh' reaction.

*don't think about Daniel Jackson don't think about Daniel Jackson don't think about Daniel Jackson*

Well, lemme give one example: Holmes and Watson. Watson we already saw how he reacted to Holmes supposed death in canon (he was devastated and wrote a lot of stories about Holmes but kept his head up and kept going.) I don't think he was hiding too much there, maybe just glossing over some of his feelings like he always does.

For Holmes, well, I can only say I believed him when he told Killer Evans in The Three Garridebs that if he'd killed Watson, Holmes would have killed him in response. Now, what he'd do after that I'm not so sure of. I suppose it would depend on the situation.

Watson also went on to a career as expert witness...

I. Doyle would murder the killer (given there is one), go into deep shock, pointlessly risk his life (twice), weep like the world's about to end, and do stupid heartbreaking little things like trying to cover Bell's body with his coat. That's the way it really happened in the canon source (shbfkfgbmngdfh). In the long term, though, I think he'd move on with his life, marry someone (Louisa Hawkins, I imagine), and get kids. And in many regards he would be happy. But he'd never forget Bell's death, and it would always be a source of terrible anguish for him.

If we are talking about Bell's actual death (1911), Doyle would probably react the same way, but his grief would be much more bearable, and he would remember the good things, too. And ultimately, he'd be much more happy than if Bell were killed by Cream (or somebody else).

Bell? Bell would bloody break. He'd never be happy again, ever. He'd go on working on the cases alone, invariably gloomy and pessimistic, and die knowing that he did what had to be done. But he'd never recover. It isn't like Bell to be suicidal, so he wouldn't kill himself (not unless he believed that Doyle's death was his fault, which, admittedly, is kind of likely in the context of the series).

II. Well, we've seen how Watson reacted to Holmes's "death". He moved on and had a normal married life and was fine in many regards. I don't think Holmes's demise was unbearable to Watson or that it was emotionally breaking him - he grieved, yes, he grieved a lot, but it was not a morbid kind of grief. Maybe a little deeper than it's entirely healthy, but not so as for Watson to be unable to endure it.

He'd always cherish his memories of Holmes, always remember him, and always defend his honour if such a necessity should arise (see EMPT). Holmes would be like his metaphorical guardian angel.

Holmes? I'm pretty sure he'd commit suicide. I can't imagine Holmes living without Watson.

III. Peter Grant would be traumatized for the rest of his life by Nightingale's death. It wouldn't be unbearable grief or anything like that, but he'd flinch and feel his blood run a little colder every time he'd remember it.

In theory, he'd able to move on and have a normal life. But in practice, he'd have the Folly to take care of, and I imagine that ultimately, he'd just become the second Nightingale.

Or maybe he'd become a genius loci. I feel like it would be the best solution for him.

Nightingale? He'd probably be suicidal, but I'm not sure he would actually commit suicide. He might pull himself together and soldier on. It wouldn't end well, though.

Edited (how do u spell) 2014-03-01 23:37 (UTC)

Like Doc Daneeka&Yossarian. Brotp forever. And yet I'm pretty sure Yossarian would be just like "aw what a pity, but I don't care", and Doc Daneeka would just say something rueful that would be lost in his stream-of-consciousness endless list of complaints.

Well, OK, Yossarian would drink to Doc's memory. And then he'd go and fuck Nurse Duckett. And that's it.

My brotps are strange.

Edited 2014-03-01 23:43 (UTC)

I was secretly kinda thinking the same about Holmes' reaction, but I know that my mind tends to get a bit too sappy and melodramatic in my thinking about this kind of thing so I kinda second-guessed myself.

(Although I think that if Watson died while Holmes was in the middle of a case, he'd still finish the case first.)

I agree with that (especially in the light of our discussion above). Holmes's a professional who's obsessed with his work. He'd definitely finish the case.

I'm not sure ACD himself would make Holmes commit suicide, but then again, I also think that a major character death in the context of this series is such an unimaginable thing that there is no guessing the would-be authorial intent. And from the looks of it, Holmes wouldn't be able to go on after Watson's death. And I seriously doubt he'd willingly choose the gallows after killing Evans.

ETA: isn't it a little eerie how we always agree on things and talk to each other? I may just be your fictional twin or something along the lines of William Wilson.

Edited 2014-03-02 00:19 (UTC)

Well, we mostly talk about either Sherlock Holmes or writing and literature in general, so that's sorta a narrow basis ;) But one thing we definitely do disagree on is that I am totally content with death of the author.

ETA: oh man, now I want fic where Watson's death IS the case that Holmes has to investigate first.

Edited 2014-03-02 00:49 (UTC)

I may write it, actually, once I'm done with my Rivers fic. Because it's an awesome idea.

DO IT. DOOOOOOOOO IT! *throws encouragement cookies*

Well, contrasts For The Win, I guess. Here's two different pairs:

Kirk and Spock:

Well, we saw how Kirk reacted. Severe, bone-deep pain and loss, but accepting the support of his other friends and Starfleet as an institution. He'd honor Spock's memory forever, and never really get over it, but he'd go on, indomitable.

Spock, if Kirk had died early, would withdrawn into himself and become the perfect, ice-cold, ultra-Vulcan for the rest of his life. He would never, ever allow himself to make bonds or open up to human ideas again. But, we do see Spock post-Kirk's death when Kirk is getting up in years -- we only see him decades post-Kirk's death, and he's stolidly workaholic, dedicated to a specific cause, quite evidently caring and involved in the world. He's doing okay. It appears to Spock and everyone else that Kirk dies while saving the Enterprise B from a freak accident. I think Spock could appreciate and accept this, given how he himself died. And I like to think that, since McCoy is still alive in TNG, that he and Spock were there for each other, in their typical gruff unspoken way, through the following years.

Starsky & Hutch:

They would commit suicide. I don't see how either of them could ever go on for long without the other. One of them without the other is not a full person, he's a crippled horse who needs to be shot and put out of his misery.

Like this:

Because that's what actually happened.

SPOILERS!

*cries*

For Ichigo and Rukia and Orihime in Bleach, whether you ship them as an otp or a brotp/platonic duo or with someone else, have basically already done this in cannon:
http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/970371.html?replyto=726259587
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-803-8/bleach/chapter-349.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/502/4

Ichigo would scream and make sad faces, then go hollow and rampage until the murderer was dead. Orhime would scream and panic and try to bring them back from the dead. Rukia would probably die right after them either trying to save them, fighting the killer or stabbed in the back running toward them. And all of them would spend the rest of their life castigating themselves with guilt over it.

whoops, that first link is supposed to be:
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/477/12

Well, for my main one? We've seen how one side reacts when the other just gets sick - and he freaks out. So need mostly likely be devastated. The other.. Hmm. Not as openly upset, but probably equally upset since they're readily close in canon

I can't even think of something I ship right now.

I already know how both sides of my current OTP would react, since one has had their death faked and the other is currently presumed (but not actually) dead. Both were devastated.

Given that my OTP is joined by a soulbond that means if one dies the other does too... He'd die. Then they'd go lump on Aulë.

And this is not just in the slash AU I RP, that bond is in the original fanfic (which gen/friendship) as well.

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