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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-10 07:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #2655 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2655 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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04. [WARNING for underage character+sex?]



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[Hannibal]


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[Wolverine and the X-Men]










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(Anonymous) 2014-04-10 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. I know it's not a big enough deal to cut, but panty shots always skeeve me out, animated or not. *shudder*

(Anonymous) 2014-04-10 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I don't mind fanservice that much either. There is always a line, though. It's always obvious when fanservice is the only reason a character or story exists and those annoy me. And I wish that, if there must be fanservice, do it to both girls and boys.

I agree with this

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-04-10 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That's how I would go about fanservice, not have it define one character or a whole story, and make sure I do it for both sides so it doesn't appear like I'm objectifying one sex

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-11 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
And what's wrong with objectifying one sex? Isn't this what porn and erotica are all about?

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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2014-04-11 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. Fanservice happens. I get aggravated when fanservice is ALL that happens.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2014-04-11 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree. Take high School of the Dead. That whole fucking SERIES was fanservice, right from the start. wish there'd been more of the guys though...but it was so over the top and ridiculous that I ended up enjoying it. Plus, I LOVED the over story. It was a nice Zombie Apoc story and I loved it.

But when it's obviously unnecessary...it gets creepy and uncomfortable.
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[personal profile] electromouse 2014-04-11 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this basically. If there's a good story, I can ignore or enjoy the fanservice. But otherwise? Nah, not for me.

[personal profile] the_missing_y 2014-04-10 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You are my people!
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-04-10 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I just think they're distracting. People compare sex and violence a lot, so let's take two examples of when you might see a gore shot:

1): In a fight against zombies. Gore is expected because it's the point.

2): Bandaging wounds after two armies clash. Gore is expected because battle injuries can be gory.

This would imply that fanservicey images would make sense in scenes where the point is to create a sexual feeling. They could also be naturalistic--I've seen a ballet anime where what's under the tutu is sometimes visible according to how the characters move, and it doesn't do fetishistic camera angles or anything, it's just a thing that happens. But with a lot of fanservicey shows, fanservice just seems to be there to be there, and it can be a distraction from the mood of the scene.
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[personal profile] inkdust 2014-04-11 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
These are my thoughts.
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[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2014-04-11 12:11 am (UTC)(link)


I don' know, man. I think the fanservice really enhanced the zombie shit in High School of the Dead, lol.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-10 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with most types of fanservice (I even like some of them!), but pantyshots have to be the most immature and infuriating of the bunch. Seriously, I can't believe anyone outside 13 year old boys could like them.
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2014-04-11 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
That's how I feel too. As fanservice go, it's kind of lame. And immature, like you said. I've heard of panties being a thing in Japanese culture though, so I might be missing something.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-10 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
of course it's not inherently bad. It's how it's presented that matters.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-11 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Fanservice can be good or bad, enjoyable or forced. It all depends of the story.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-04-11 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't remember where I read this, but I saw a post once talking about how the thing with fanservice is that it forces the viewer to be a voyeur, and that made a lot of sense to me. If I'm watching my characters fighting for their lives I don't want to sexualize them in the middle of it all. If I'm trying to relate emotionally to a character I don't want suddenly to see their underwear.
I feel like that kind of fanservice has the cameraman/animator suddenly jumping in and going LOOK BOOBS or LOOK ASS TEE HEE and it throws me out of the story so bad.

I don't mind it when there is a logical plot reason for it - like in Free, it's an anime about swimming so people are in swimsuits, so I'm more forgiving. Or if it's a show about, say, models so showing them in lingerie makes sense because that's part of what models do.

I guess I just don't like blatant objectification, what can I say.

ETA: the thing about fanservice is that it's not volitional by the characters; it's a decision made by the creators. It's essentially breaking the 4th wall for me in order to point out sexual attributes, and since I as a viewer am forced to objectify the characters along with the creator, it makes me uncomfortable because it's not something I would do otherwise.
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(Anonymous) 2014-04-11 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
yeah this makes sense to me, it does take me out of the story like that
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[personal profile] scrubber 2014-04-11 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
This makes sense to me. I hate almost all fanservice because it's not what I want, what the character wants, or what makes sense, instead it's what some male director somewhere wants. Not interested in knowing your fetishes dude.

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[personal profile] morieris 2014-04-11 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. Sometimes I would find it distracting in KLK, but that was rather early on when even in universe the characters were uncomfortable as well.

can't say I've seen enough anime to really comment.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-11 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I just ignore the "ecchi" genre. If it's not in an "ecchi" tagged show, it's annoying, but it's not big of a deal and I can ignore it. I'm not going to let it sour me from an anime I'm enjoying without those scenes.

I just wish there was more fanservice pandered to girls :)

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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-11 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I don't care about fanservice so long as it's not random and invasive, dropped into completely unrelated circumstances. During a sexy or flirtatious scene is one thing, but a panty shot in the middle of a murder or half of a casual conversation filmed from the angle of a character's ass is just...why? It makes me resentful not because oh no sex, but because it kicks me out of the narrative for no reason. But when the momentary or entire narrative itself is about fanservice? That's totally cool.
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(Anonymous) 2014-04-11 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I kinda don't feel that you're wrong per se, espeically because let's face it wer' humans aren't we? and we get off to stuff and thing thins it hot ecause we hve sex drives. well some of us do anyway.

esex doesn't sell. it's been proven that adding sex to an ad actualy dosn' incerease the likelihoodtha people will buy he product. in some cases, it atually reduces the likeihood. but,it is an enjoyable component in a piece of entertinament, and I don't think this is necessarily wrong. it's only wrong really if it is used in the place o f actually repreation and the creation of wll wrounded characters of various backgrounds and geners.

but if we have all of that covered and you're just throwing in some sexy imes for the fuck of it, then who gives tow shits i mean really. i like being titillated. toehr women can say that they dn't i guess, and some don't, but a lot do and they just don't want to say it.

isn't that a sham,e though? it's kind of a fucked up artifact from the bullshit days when women were supposed to be frigid and from the fuckos who are all about purity culutre today. this idea thw ome naren't supposed to be interested in or enjoy sex. BUT WE DO. and it's so hard to admit it because ewe've een told from a very early age that we don't, and that there's osmethin wrong with us if we do. it's a wole lot of bllshit, and we should fight agains it and advocate for the appreciate of female seuality and rthe recogniztion that women nejoy sex and want to have it, with certain people, int he proper context.

I think tha some of this is given int ot the idea thw aomwne cannot and should not be sexual.
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(Anonymous) 2014-04-12 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Fan-service is lots of fun but, in the wrong place, it ruins things. Star Trek into Darkness, I'm looking at you. Also looking at Thor: The Dark World. I accept most any excuse to get Chris Hemsworth shirtless because putting clothes on that man is a crime but that face washing scene came out of nowhere and kinda made me mad, if only because I'd rather he not wear a shirt ever.

I think I like Chris Hemsworth a bit.