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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-20 03:14 pm

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[personal profile] ansela_jonla 2014-04-20 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It's Easter, that's the main one.

At a guess, I'd say the juvenile hilarity of the date, in American format (MMDD) being 4/20, which is slang for weed, is now a "holiday". I've seen it splattered all over a few social media/image sharing sites, and quite frankly I find it pathetic. Could just be because the smell of that stuff gives me a nasty headache.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Right right, I totally forgot today was Easter. I did know about it! Just forgot.

The 4/20 thing as a "holiday" is idiotic. And yes, juvenile.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
there is nothing wrong with smoking marijuana.

stop being snooty and superior towards people who do it. it does not make them less intelligent or you more so. it does not make them less mature or you more so. it's just something that some people enjoy.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, in a lot of places it's illegal. So there actually is something wrong with smoking it.

That aside, it's dumb to make a whole holiday to the drug. I think you're defensive reply actually speaks a lot about your own issues with it, moreso than the other persons reply.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
it's a bit of good-natured fun. it's stupid but that's hardly the worst thing in the world. and the reason i'm defensive is because this is an attitude that seems to crop up a lot in nerd circles and it just bothers the heck out of me. i don't even smoke weed (i have in the past, but not for a pretty long time), it has basically nothing to do with me, but the attitude is just so illogical and arrogant.

i probably am reading something into anselah's comment, and sorry if that's the case, but it is something that really frustrates me and they did say a whole hell of a lot about certain peoples' hobbies and recreational activities being juvenile and pathetic

also, are you seriously going to argue that something being illegal means that it is wrong solely by that fact?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
i agree that it's not the worst thing in the world and i think it ignorant to just demonize something/a whole group of people

but someone else before you said 'it doesn't make them stupid' when in FACT it does - it's not a secret, pot makes you dumb...it messes up your thought processes and warps your sense of reality and ability to make well-thought out decisions. It's akin to saying someone who is drunk (actively plastered) can make good decisions

those who say they can smoke pot and function like normal are deluding themselves

also, i tend to find that Americans (moreso than other cultures) equate 'illegal' with 'immoral' - no judgment, just an observation which i haven't seen in most other cultures

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Okay, but would you say that someone who drinks is necessarily a stupid person? There's a massive, gaping difference between saying someone is dumber when high and saying someone is a dumb person because of the fact that they smoke. I think it's absolutely ridiculous to say that smoking makes you a dumb or a bad person, just the same way I think it's absolutely ridiculous to say that drinking makes you a dumb or a bad person. Why on earth do people care so damn much about how other people relax?

FWIW, I don't smoke. I just think it's silly to judge people who do. (And this comment is directed at this whole thread, not just you.)
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-04-21 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, sorry, no. Pretty much everyone i know works, drives, plays, etc. with some level of marijuana in their system and none of them are dumb, or have messed-up thought processes. If you get stoned as a motherfucker, sure, but *all* of these people basically do two or three hits and then quit for a couple hours, do a couple hits and then nothing for five or six hours....

But they do it every day. So, again - no.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I am going to argue that there is something wrong with doing something solely because it is illegal. It is legally wrong. You said there was nothing wrong with smoking pot, I pointed out one aspect in which it is indeed wrong depending on where you live.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-20 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"it's illegal" =/= "it's wrong" seriously that is such a stupid and arguably damaging attitude

(Anonymous) 2014-04-21 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
...so you don't think there's anything at all wrong with doing something knowingly illegal? Even if you disagree with the law you have to admit that there is wrongdoing in not following it.

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[personal profile] ansela_jonla 2014-04-20 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no problem with weed smokers themselves. They're people, and that means there's a range of "good" and "bad" weed smokers.

My issue is with the ones that feel the need to proclaim their habit to the world. The ones that walk around reeking of the stuff, that emblazon their social media profiles with weed related imagery, that brag incessantly about breaking the law where they live, the ones who insist that a date is special just because it's coincidentally related to their habit.

I don't know if the ones like that are the majority, or just a vocal minority, but it all comes across as juvenile, teenage, attention-seeking behaviour, of the "look what cool and forbidden thing I'm doing" kind.

The very fact that you got so defensive suggests that maybe you know this sort of behaviour is, in fact, rather pathetically juvenile?
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-04-20 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
oh my god fuck off lucky star go be needlessly indignant somewhere else
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-04-20 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Except if you don't buy it legally you are for the most part* funding drug cartels. Who uses their money for human trafficking and so on...

And even if it isn't dangerous or addicting it is still illegal. And I for one don't want to associate with something that might land me in jail or give me a hefty fine.

*Growing your own, buying locally made is two obvious exceptions...
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-04-21 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, wow. Nobody around here is funding a drug cartel, good gods. It's local people who grow it and sell it, period. Maybe in LA or something, but here? Nope.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-04-21 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
And no one is doing anything else illegal, nothing organized and everyone who grows the pot are just doing it in a tiny box in their flats and not getting help to sell it?

I live in a tiny town in the backwaters of no where Norway and our drugs (including pot) are connected to other illegal activities. And it has been the same in all the towns I live in... Hells Angels are the most prominent, both in drugs and other organized crimes, heck my aunt was tried beaten half to death because of her boyfriends (now ex and this is ages ago) drug debt. She has also been in jail for someone elses pot.

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[personal profile] ansela_jonla 2014-04-21 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
When I was away at uni, I was headed back to where I was living at the time and came across a drugs raid right opposite where I was staying.

The police were loading a skip full of weed plants, and people were slipping in behind their backs and taking one or two smaller ones away.

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[personal profile] comradesmiler 2014-04-20 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Weed is for little babies.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-21 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Man, I'm about as open-minded as they come, but I really don't think you should be giving weed to kids.
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[personal profile] cakemage 2014-04-21 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Damn right. I, for one, ain't sharin' my stash with no freeloadin' little brats. That shit is expensive.

I mean, uh. Just say no, kids.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I know a lot of wonderful smart people who smoke marijuana. But they don't celebrate it or identify with it like the kids down at 420 day do. I don't judge them for smoking it, but I do judge them for the hypocrisy of living like idealistic yuppie hipsters and at the same time supporting gang activity.
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[personal profile] republicanism 2014-04-21 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
mhm. calling weed juvenile & pathetic with a bleach icon

check yourself

(Anonymous) 2014-04-21 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
right???

(Anonymous) 2014-04-21 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone here is an idiot. Nobody called weed itself juvenile and pathetic, just the whole "420 holiday" stupidity.
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[personal profile] ansela_jonla 2014-04-21 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Would you prefer Rifleman Hagman, or does the patriarchal and militaristic nature of Sharpe also offend you?