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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-11 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2686 ]


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elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - WS (bow))

To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh... For me it was probably that moment that Bucky realized he knew Steve, then had that knowledge taken from him. He had already been used and violated in so many ways...

But even though he didn't fully understand who Steve was it seemed like that might've been the first time since his last wipe that he had any kind of memory or emotion. Even if it wasn't, clearly the thought of being someone, having a life outside of his missions was such a foreign and confusing thought for him, but he wanted and seemed to long for that so badly.

So basically Sebastian Stan's puppy dog eyes.

Or Steve dropping his shield and resigning himself to letting Bucky kill him if he couldn't bring him back. That was hella horrible too.

Plus Natasha finding out she was practically working for Hydra... And having to put her entire, bloody past on the net in order to out Hydra. Winter Soldier was a barrel full of laughs, let me tell you.

(And hey, that's just Winter Soldier! How about Steve waking up in the future and realizing that pretty much every person he ever knew or loved was dead? Fun.)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
His little defeated wobbly face and "but I knew him". CURSE YOU SEBASTIAN STAN. CURSE YOU AND YOUR ACTING.

(and every person he knew and meets in Winter Soldier doesn't remember him anymore! Fun and love for the whole family!)

elaminator: (Avengers: Cap (jawline))

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, “But I knew him” will be the death of me. Stop making my heart ache, Sebastian Stan. Stop ruining my life.

He was so childlike and hopeful and needed THIS ONE THING and Pierce took it away from him. If only we could kill Pierce again. (Or at least make sure the bastard is dead.)

(Exactly! The two most important people in his life didn't know who he was, and his bff, the person who knew him best actively turned against him. Even though Bucky had no say in it, that had to be the most horrible, soul crushing experience.)

Captain America: ruining your hopes and dreams for ever achieving true happiness.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-11 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who came out that film with so many...feelings.
elaminator: (Captain America: Steve/Bucky)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought I was prepared. I read the comic, I read tons of fanfic dealing with Bucky's return, I read the wiki...

I could never prepare for Sebastian Stan's puppy dog eyes and distress, nor Chris Evans adoration or depression.

Basically I'm saying that movie was impossible.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-11 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I knew zero about it.

I read a lot of the X-titles, but never Captain America (or Thor for that matter) - but hey, I like superhero movies in general.

I was already pretty upset about Bucky "dying" in the last film,because I really liked him (and hey, to be shallow, he's actually so much more my type than Cap).

So, I basically went in unspoiled. Somany feelings. Those facial expressions killed me. Also, just so much more love nd respect for Steve now (a character I was mostly indifferent to). So, well one Marvel. I think I'll need o read the comics now. And consume a shitton of fanfic/fan art. And accept being a little in love with Bucky...
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - WS (gun))

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I know a lot of people didn't think much of Bucky in First Avenger, but he (And his relationship with Steve) was one of my favorite parts of the film. And I really liked the film. Stan might not have had a ton of screentime but he did a great job of making Bucky fun and compassionate and memorable. I remember first seeing the film, not realizing Bucky lived and being so upset. Then I went home and researched him and saw he came back as Winter Soldier and breathed a sigh of relief. I'm so glad they brought Stan back for two instead of sitting on that story for longer.

I almost wish I hadn't known about Bucky simply because the reveal would've been AMAZING. One of the reasons I was so excited to see the film was to see how people reacted to the reveal, lol. I'm sad I haven't got to go again.

I've loved Steve since the beginning but I do think this film did a better job of making him a more interesting and well rounded character. It did that with everyone, really.

You should at least read the Winter soldier arc! It was really good. There's so much good fanfic too, I can barely keep up with it. Now is a good time to be a Cap (And Bucky) fan.

icon buddies! *high five*

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the best taste

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nightscale: Starbolt (Pokémon: Mew)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-05-11 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh all of this. ALL OF THIS. Sebastian Stan's eyes should be registered as lethal weapons because damn, going from cold blooded killer to abused puppy was SO NOT COOL OKAY.

Oh, oh. Can I add Natasha's 'Don't do this to me Nick' mantra that she kept saying while he was in surgery BECAUSE THAT WAS HORRIBLE AND I JUST... D:

(Steve needs a hug, Steve needs all the hugs. From everyone, I don't care. Everyone hug that man!)
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - WS (walk))

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
They should be. I can barely believe Winter Soldier is the same person in the “I knew him” scene. He pulls out the eyes of infinite sadness and everything changes.

... But I had forgotten about that part, why did you remind me. D: So many layers of pain in this film. So many layers...

I think the entire cast should be hugged forever. They should have tons of group hugs. Even Sam. Sam probably doesn't need it quite as much at the moment, but dammit, he deserves them too.
nightscale: Starbolt (Pokémon: Mew)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-05-11 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The worst part is that I knew that all this shit was coming(in a fashion at least, just adapted from the comics) yet I was still WHOLLY UNPREPARED TO HANDLE IT. Just, gah. Don't hurt me this way Marvel.

I had to share the agony. You're welcome.

The next Avengers film should be nothing but group hugs and trips to the local ice-cream store to get like milkshakes and shit. NO PAIN HERE, ONLY FROZEN GOODNESS.
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Natasha (casual w)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! I was just saying upthread that I read the comic, I read dozens of fic dealing with this very scenario, I read Wiki pages... Yet somehow I was still absolutely floored at the execution. Damn you, Marvel!

Ugh, Nat should not be in pain, Nat should be braiding Bucky's hair. (While Steve takes pictures in the background.)

I would genuinely like the next Avengers movie to be Steve getting Bucky back, them moving into Stark tower and all the Avengers hanging out and also helping Bucky overcome his problems. And eating ice cream.

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm all for Bucky having issues with moving in where there are so many people who are not Steve.

And Tony finding all the ways to drag them both into Stark tower (like: huh yes, I've bought all the buildings in Brooklyn and I forbid 92 year-olds who look 25 to live in my buildings, sorry - but he also makes sure that Bucky's room is next to Steve's and that he can keep an eye on all the exits at all times, he had Pepper send in an expert on PTSD for that).
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - WS knife-fight)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Awwww yessss. I don't think Bucky would jump at the chance to move in with all the Avengers either tbh, but I think Steve and Tony could eventually convince him. As long as Steve was there next to him and he had some sort of counseling or something I think it could work. But I also think it would take time before he felt like hanging out with everyone at once, but until then he could hide in his room or hang with Steve and maybe meet the Avengers one on one.

Lmao at 92 year old that look 25. I could see Tony doing and saying that.
nightscale: Starbolt (Pokémon: Mew)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-05-11 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
They are evil and make me feel things, how fucking dare they?

Yes, yes, yes. All hair-braiding going on here, no fights. No brain-washing. Just fun and cuddles.

Yup, and Bucky gets to make friends with other Avengers and they like all help each other to heal and eat ice-cream all day and never have to worry about the fate of the world ever again. What do you mean this isn't happening? Fuck.

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

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Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

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Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Age of Ultron? Nah, more like Age of Ben & Jerry's in front of Disney re-runs with blankets and group hugs.
nightscale: Starbolt (Pokémon: Mew)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-05-11 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the plot of the next film, trufax.

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Did anyone ask for additional feelings?

http://camunki.tumblr.com/post/84568667127/time-stagnates-here-suggested-i-make-a-winter

I saw someone mention that the Winter Soldier doesn't need to run to his victims. When he attacks Nick and Natasha, he walks - he knows that no matter how far his victims think they can run, he will always, always catch up to them. Winter Soldier!Bucky is terrifying (but I also want to hug him, like a prickly hedgehog).

(and fluff to make up for that: http://mechinaries.tumblr.com/post/83447174783/i-imagine-both-steve-and-bucky-like-to-come-up)

elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Metal Arm)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think anything in the MCU terrifies me as much as Winter Soldier. Both the fact that he's an extremely efficient killing machine, or that he used to be a good person that's had his free will stripped from him in order to do things that once he remembers will haunt him for the rest of his life.

Thanks, Marvel.

And that Fanart is the best thing ever, omg... So cute! I want it in Cap 3.
ketita: (Default)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-12 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm reading the Winter Soldier run in the comics right now (I was curious, after the movie), and tbh I feel like the brainwashing thing has a bit less impact there because there is SO MUCH BRAINWASHING.

TBH, I think MCU made a lot of very good calls in how they adapted the story, because there are things I am liking so much more in the movie (yeah whatever I'm a bad comics fan who cares)
nightscale: Starbolt (Pokémon: Mew)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-05-11 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god...

WHY DO YOU HURT ME THIS WAY.

Seriously though that is really good and kind of gloriously painful?

Ahhhhhh, I've seen that one before but I will never complain about being shown it again. Thank you nonnie, for both!
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-11 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have more fanart recs? Please say yes.
elaminator: (Captain America: Bucky - Sniper)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-12 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Not anon you replied to but I've reblogged some fanart. If I was at my computer I'd link you to individual posts but it's not happening from my phone. If you want you can look through my fanart tag it's here. http://elaminator.tumblr.com/tagged/fanart

(It has fanart of everything, but a lot of the more recent stuff is Cap.)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Why, yes. :D

http://kaciart.tumblr.com/post/85057713233
http://misterdomon.tumblr.com/post/84055897649/a-comic-about-tony-liking-to-put-his-name-on
http://mechinaries.tumblr.com/post/83341314222/take-me-home (actually: http://mechinaries.tumblr.com/tagged/the-winter-soldier)
http://n-a-blue-box.tumblr.com/post/75537531231/steve-comic-speed-paint-please-do-not
http://sconee.tumblr.com/post/81135208990
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Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] augustbird 2014-05-12 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
my fave thing i did recently was to rewatch avengers with the knowledge that steve was severely depressed throughout the entire movie 8)

edit - grammar???????????
Edited 2014-05-12 00:44 (UTC)
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Steve (plane))

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-12 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, why would you? I mean, of COURSE he was, but at the time of Avengers I didn't realize to what extent. In Winter Soldier he's barely hanging on and I wish more fic would deal with that. I love the fanfic this fandom has produced but there isn't enough depressed!Steve to go with confused/scared/traumatized!Bucky.

Now I've gotta do it again too. All those tight outfits and bulging muscles... It's gonna be rough.