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"I am not your label"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
For fuck's sake. I'm not *~experimenting with my gender identity*~ -- or discovering it, for that matter. I'm not genderfluid. I'm not trans. Just because I don't wear my hair long, dress the way you dress or like the things you like, that doesn't mean I'm not a woman or I'm trying to make some grand gender statement.

I am a woman who likes what she likes and does what she wants, not a poster child for your cause of the day.

Does anyone else feel like people have foisted inaccurate labels on you, whether negative or -- in this case -- intended to be positive/supportive?

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I get called an MRA from time to time by various jerks.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I get called a feminist by various jerks. I call myself egalitarian but apparetnly that doesn't matter. :/

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I've had people say, to my face, that I'm 'genderfluid' and that I just wasn't ready to admit it. Like, no. No I am not. I identify as a woman. I have a vagina. Just because I am not very feminine does not change either of those things.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
You need new friends tbh.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I would tell those people to fuck off.

It's like they're trying really hard to be progressive but they've come round full circle and turned into the Gender Police.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-05-21 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
People keep thinking I'm a lesbian because I've never been in a relationship, don't show much interest in anyone, and identify as a feminist.

It's disconcerting because I don't want it to affect my work.
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[personal profile] nan 2014-05-21 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here. And I don't want to get into explaining asexuality because hello awkward questions. :\
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-05-21 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I mostly get people taking away my labels. People especially love telling me I'm not really a Christian. Not even in an insulting way. I just don't fit their idea of what a Christian is like.

Sorry to hear about your situation. I'm very much of the "the personal is political" mindset, but I still hate when things get taken as intentional political statements when they're not meant that way.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I also get told I'm not a Christian, on a regular basis. By professing Christians who then turn around and expect ME to accept that THEY are Christians. Yeah. That'll happen.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I get told that I'm not a christan because "Catholics aren't christians!"

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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-05-21 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Me: "I'm a jeans and tee-shirt girl, I don't wear dresses if I can help it."
Them: "Oh, you're genderfluid? That's great!"
Me: "Nah, I'm female and a woman, just not all that feminine."
Them: "So you're gender neutral?"
Me: "...no. I'm a woman. Woman is a gender."
Them: "But you just said-"
Me: "Does a guy become gender fluid because he prefers to wear jeans instead of suits? No? Then stop assuming I'm 'masculine' because I prefer jeans over dresses."

-_-
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-21 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Next person to tell me I'm not really deaf because I wear hearing aids gets pencils jammed into their ears.

That goes double for other deaf people.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
When some of my friends were discussing ways they'd encountered this very problem, I was silent because as of that time I had never been mislabeled. Ironically, at some point in the conversation one of my friends put in that she thinks I'm asexual. I said no, just because I'm single, not looking, and don't say things like "Damn s/he's hot" or "I'd tap that" like the rest of you doesn't mean I'm asexual.

Well, it turned out I am, but I only realized it years after that conversation. So the point still stands. Stood.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I hate people telling me I'm 'wheelchair bound'. Not unless someone tied me to it without me noticing, I'm not.

Wheelchair user, please.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-05-22 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand what is so hard for people to grasp about the fact that there is no set definition of either gender or sex and that they mean different things to each person. What woman means to me is different from what it means to other women. And that is okay. I guess people are uncomfortable with the lack of concrete boxes to put people in.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I've mostly gotten the "You aren't *really* religious/Catholic/Christian" because I a. don't talk about religion with peopleunless *they* bring it up - and even then, I usually only say something when it starts to swerve into territory of "OMG, PEOPLE OF X RELIGION ARE TOTES THE WORST HUMAN BEINGS ON THE PLANET!" to try to change the topic. Or B. Catholics aren't ~really~ christians [because...reasons?]

Other than that...not so much? One girl decided I must be bi because I've had a relationship with a guy but...other than that not really.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
"Divorced kid" and "child of divorce." My parents are divorced, not me, and I'm not some unfortunate byproduct born as a result of the divorce.
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[personal profile] segnung 2014-05-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
People (men, really) certainly like to question my queerness. I guess I could be labeled as bi, but my attractions to men are very, very narrow and specific, so my dating/relationship experience with men isn't very broad or extensive. However, for the times when I have dated a man, I'd suddenly have male co-workers, friends, and even my brother questioning me and telling me that I must be straight. When I've mentioned girlfriends, I've been asked, "What are you?"

I've also been told to "just pick one", as if my sexuality is something I'm confused about and can easily settle with a simple decision.

I've been in love with men and I've been in love with women. I am not confused. I cannot be magically cured with heterosexual sex. I cannot just pick a side.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
When I cut my hair short, a lot of people seemed to think I was a lesbian.
That pissed me off. HAIR LENGTH DOES NOT DETERMINE SEXUAL ORIENTATION, FFS.

It only made my eventual realization that I was bisexual even more difficult to deal with. I am NOT looking forward to eventually coming out and having to deal with all the people telling me I'm either gay or straight. Ughhhhh.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-22 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
o.O really? that sounds obnoxious.

I'm a woman who has some classically masculine personality traits and typically male interests, and as a kid I went through a "tomboy" phase where I cut all my hair off and only wore boys' clothes, and I've never identified as anything other than female, and nobody has tried to tell me that I do or should. I mean I've had a few immature "lol r u rly a boy" things, but none of "are you experimenting with your gender/genderfluid" anything.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I've been labeled a socialist because I admitted that I thought the concept of a maximum wage was not entirely without merit.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
That does sound obnoxious.

It's also strange to me, because I almost always wear jeans and t-shirts (pretty much every day before I was around 20, but I still rarely wear skirts and dresses) and have had short hair since I was around 17, and no one has ever tried to call me gender-fluid, trans, experimenting, a lesbian, or anything else.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
I AM trans and I hate the labels I get by "well meaning" people

I'm not 'rejecting the gender binary' or 'playing with gender presentation' or otherwise being your obnoxious genderbending hero, I'm a person with a birth defect getting medical treatment for that birth defect, that's IT

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
My mom thought I was a lesbian because I never had a boyfriend at that point. I'm just shy mom. Ok. Have you ever seen me with a woman either? No. Ok then.

I feel like I would get the genderqueer labled online if I ever talked about myself but I do very much identify as female I just get frustrated shopping because I can't afford nice things or they never fit so I end up with Jeans and T-shirts 24-7. I don't really consider those things "for men" but I guess online if you're not wearing dresses and fitted clothing you're not a woman anymore.

I saw someone trying to convince a kid online they were trans for wearing t-shirts and that's just bullshit ok. Clothes don't make thee (a) man.

I get called a man a lot because of my art. Most of the time it's just a mistake. I don't really care to correct them. Once they get to know me they figure out I'm a girl. Sometimes it's in anger. Like only men can draw women looking sexy. Male gaze male gaze objectification. Misogynist. I've ever fought with people over it and they still call me a man even if I say I'm not. It's like they can't live in their world anymore if there's a girl that defies their narrative. It's not even that I only draw women either. I have two art personalities, basically. Tumblr gets all my man candy and DA gets all my lady art.

The one I remember most said I was being awful and objectifying women for having a fetish (In which I want to be the females I draw) where they(A woman) drew explicit gay porn.

I'm the bad guy because women can't deal with sexy art. I think the whole thing has given me an interesting perspective in that I've basically seen both sides. I have yet to get any complaints about my beefcake art so I've become a bit angry about women that complain about cheesecake.

I'm not sure if that's all about labels but there it is.

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