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For people who don't like modern AUs: how do you feel about reincarnation-into-modern-times fic? I have seen a lot of these in Tolkien fanworks and SNK/Attack on Titan fanworks. Are they better or worse than standard modern AUs? Do you think they work better with some fandoms than others? I'm asking for curiosity's sake.

There used to be a ton of that in the Slayers fandom, and I ate it up. I don't have any fandoms where it could happen, at the moment so I don't know.

+1 In Slayers the idea is kinda canon.

I've read some in Merlin but couldn't get into it.

The only fandom I'll read that trope in is Merlin BBC because it works with canon.

I'll sometimes read them when I run out of everything 'else', but I'm not overtly fond of them. BBC Merlin I actually don't mine them for because, yea, it does work with the canon.

I have nothing against modern AUs, I think they're just really, really over done. And thereore they've become boring. Reincarnated or otherwise.

It really depends on the fandom and the plot of the fic, IMO.

Generally speaking, when the modern AU-ness of it is a major part of the fic on a meta level, it's good. When it's just a handwavy excuse for the author to write generic romantic plotlines in a "normal" setting, it's bad.

Exactly. I think that's really how I feel about AUs anyway - I like them when I feel like the writer is trying to explore legitimate what-ifs. But it doesn't sit well for me when I realize they're just trying to make their ship easier to write or more plausible.

It's somewhat better, but I still can't get into it. I just can't read about Merlin cramming for a test with a straight face.

Can be interesting when done well. However, I think it's tricky - it can get too OOC because writers often think "I can't write the character exactly like they were in their old life". Which is true, a reincarnation would not be exactly the same. But sometimes, they turn into complete OCs with only their looks roughly the same, and that really doesn't work for me anymore. Then there's the trouble with names: You can't really give the characters the same names, but especially in a "whole cast reincarnation" case, learning new names for every single character is pretty annoying for the reader.

I think reincarnation into modern times AUs for SnK don't work, at least not if the "modern times" is a reflection of our present time. Because I am pretty sure that SnK is not some middle ages kind of setting and I'm very sure that a modern version of that particular universe would not be anything like our current world.

I've yet to see A tolkien one that is well done. Reincarnation doesn't exactly fit in the Tolkien universe anyway. I could look past that if one was well done because I'm somewhat intrigued by the idea in spite of not liking Modern Aus for the most part. But I haven't seen anything that was remotely well written or wasn't completely cliched and filled with bad characterization.

It sort of depends which fandom and how it's written.

But, on a more meta level I love universe-building and that's part of my enjoyment of fiction- so for example, I don't know why I'd be interested in a Game of Thrones AU set in an American high-school. Even i well-written, I found the original premise much more appealing.

I've read a couple of good Phantom of the Opera ones back in the day, but it's basically just one of those tropes that works in multiple settings.

I feel like, if you're going to rite an AU - do something non-conventional with it at least.

I sometimes think certain fics are so AU, they don't particularly resemble the original series that I love anymore.

But this isn't always true. I have read AUs that are done so well, the... atmosphere, I guess? is the same as canon. Subtle things, characterization, even story dilemmas. I like that sort of thing fine.

Generally, though, I don't seek it out. The vast majority have come across as juvenile and OOC to me (an excuse to shove all the characters in high school, or something). Then again, that's true for most fanfic. :P

I guess it depends on how it's done? I'm honestly not sure how it would even work with universes that are basically in different worlds anyway - well, I think LOTR is sort of supposed to take place in our world (I haven't read the books in years), but in the sense that it was before our world even existed, so it seems to be a bit of a moot point? I mean, I guess you could have an AU of an AU where you used modern political situations and stuff, but... I don't know. However, as demonstrated I also don't know that much about the LOTR series.

I don't know. It might be interesting to try it with costume dramas, honestly - but less as something serious and more as either a parody or as a way to sort of compare both times. Like Mad Men in a modern setting - what would be different? What would be eerily similar? But you'd have to do it as one or the other for it to work, I think - otherwise why not just write an original story about people who work for an ad agency in 2014?

I've run into some authors who can make those interesting, or even just standard mundane AUs interesting. But there are so few of those authors and so many more people writing shitty ones that I never bother with any of them any more, unless I already know the author.

Depends on the fandom. If it actually takes place in the real(ish) world, then I'm okay with it, though it isn't any better than other AUs for me. If it's something like Tolkien? Nah. Not unless they're reincarnated into a later age of Middle Earth.

Technically, a "later age" of Middle Earth could be our modern day. From Tolkien himself:

'Middle-earth', by the way, is not a name of a never-never land without relation to the world we live in .... And though I have not attempted to relate the shape of the mountains and land-masses to what geologists may say or surmise about the nearer past, imaginatively this 'history' is supposed to take place in a period of the actual Old World of this planet.

That said, the concept of reincarnation in Tolkien's legendarium is so... particular that I don't think it could ever work the way I've seen with most reincarnation fics. I actually prefer non-AU modern day fic, if we're going to be doing modern day Tolkien at all. That's why we have immortal characters.

Depends on the fandom and the specifics of said modern AU (as in where it is set and if I think the setting fits in with the characters).

For SNK specifically - I think it could be done in an interesting way, but mostly isn't, to the point where I have completely lost interest in random AUs.

Generic characters with pasted on names and descriptions is all it is.

Also I think that half the time they call it reincarnation but that aspect is barely peripheral to the plot.

I love modern AUs, but I really, really don't like reincarnation fics. I guess I'm over here on the other end of the spectrum.

Actually, reincarnation is one of the very few ways I do like modern AU in Tolkien fics. (See: http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1021338.html?thread=753624986#cmt753624986 - I can subscribe to the "Middle Earth is this world" concept quite easily.)

That and imaginative modern reinterpretations of canon, where Bilbo is straight-up English, and Erebor is some modern world country that has been taken over by terrorists.

Almost all other modern AUs feel like there is not enough connection back to canon to really make it believable.

Of course, the execution of any given fic is dependent on the writer's talent, and sometimes even straight modern AUs can end up good, but I am less inclined to give them time.

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