[ SECRET POST #2717 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2717 ⌋

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[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/RnJ5Jym.png

[morieris]

I...thought this was the newer design and an older one got changed?

[iceyred]

I don't think she hated the look, it just wasn't for her. She didn't seem terribly hateful or miserable when they were dressing her for the Matchmaker, just awkward. There were parts of the song where she was smiling.

But I agree with you that that is a terrible image. They should have put her in either her armor, or her simpler dress.

[dratinis]

Oh god, now I'm wishing they'd put her in some badass armor, but of course that'd never happen. Gotta stick to all that gendered marketing, and we all know little girls don't like awesome looking armor, nope.

I'm a sad camper. :C

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I've always thought that Mulan didn't necessarily hate the look, but what the look represented. When she was dressed up like that in the movie it was with the intention of her being a good little wife-to-be and being judged on her looks, and how well she'll be able to attract a man (a woman's only worth). I think if she could dress like that again, outside the confines of those ideals, she might have liked it more.

[elaminator]

I agree. Granted, she might not have liked it more, but what you're saying about what the look represented to her makes sense.

(Though like iceyred said, she would've looked really awesome in armor.)

[(Anonymous)]

This. I never got the sense that she hated being girly as much as she hated what was expected of her, which was to get married into a good family. Like you said, her entire worth was being judged on how she looked and how she behaved.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I didn't think it was the clothes, just that she felt useless going to a matchmaker.

And the picture the OP posted is based on her outfit from the very beginning of the movie (granted jazzed up a lot) but those were her everyday clothes so I'd assume she was comfortable in them.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure where the bustle bits came from. The dress isn't bad otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

But don't you know? You can only ever sell frilly dresses to girls. No girl would want an armour wearing princess.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, this has got to be a troll because there are plenty of girls and boys would love an armor wearing princess.

[ibbity]

I don't enjoy the sparklefication of the princesses in general. I liked that some of the old dresses were kind of understated (for fancy ballgowns), it seemed more elegant that way. Now they're just flashy ~princess dresses~ that don't have that timeless quality. I will say though that I VASTLY prefer Ariel's new green dress to her old pink one. The old one was terrible and clashed with her hair mightily. Also, you have a point in saying that Mulan was more suited to the plain look she has in her movie dress (the green one that she wears in the final showdown) because that was her personality. The sparkles might suit the other girls but not her. I never got why they put her in the princess lineup anyway - she wasn't royalty nor married royalty.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[iceyred]

Mulan got included in the princess line-up because she's awesome. No other reason needed. :)

I agree with you about Ariel's green dress. It is sooooooo much better. I mean, I loved the pink poofy one too, but not on her.

[(Anonymous)]

It didn't clash with her hair. That goddamn Bri-chan art that everyone just spews out has convinced everyone that's really the gospel. ORANGE clashes with pink. Redheads have ORANGE hair, not bright firetruck red.

PINK does not clash with red. No one on Earth has ever thought that they actually clash together. It's only because of that stupid damn Bri-chan art.

[(Anonymous)]

Gee anon, did someone shit in your cornflakes this morning?
Someone's wearing their bitter underpants on the outside today.

And you do know Mulan wasn't a complete tomboy right?
She just didn't want to get married, and cared about her family more then anything else.
I don't really get that that translates to "hating anything that's even slightly girly or fancy"

I think the dress looks kinda pretty. Mulan is also one of my favorite disney princesses.
But no you're right, I've never seen her movie in my entire life and I only like her because she's a pretty picture. I am a total fake Mulan fan. You got me.
I have dishonored the entire disney fanbase.
;(

[ypsilon42]

But that looks nothing like the matchmaker dress? This looks more like a fancy version of her regular clothes, that she wore at home. And since they were her normal clothes she probably didn't hate them and she certainly never indicated so in the movie. In fact I really like, that for once they did not put her in the matchmaker dress.

(That said, in the end I think the dress is a little bit to sparkly and the whole style of the new designs is pretty awful, but whatever...)

[(Anonymous)]

IDK how long you've been in fandom, but people will ignore A LOT for the sake of pretty/sexy :/

(it sucks, I know)

[(Anonymous)]

Mulan is my absolute FAVORITE Disney princess and I would love to have a figure of here in armor. But I would also love to have a figure of her in that outfit, too.

And as other people up-thread mentioned, she didn't exactly hate the look.

[beverlykatz]

This isn't anything new. As far as I remember, they've never marketed Mulan with her armor, just with the matchmaker dress from the beginning. Still disappointing, but it's an old disappointing.

[omens]

Oh, that's a great point. I'm not into Disney but I have seen Mulan... and I never questioned seeing her in the princess mural all dolled up but ...yeah. :/ :/

[(Anonymous)]

This is only tangentially related, but I get similarly awkward when I see Ariel as a mermaid in, like, 90% of her merchandise. Even the Ariel dress that Disney peddles at Halloween time is always a mermaid outfit... It makes me kind of sad, because Ariel spends most of the movie wishing that she were human, but that's not what's cute and marketable. Better make sure that she's a mermaid on all of the merchandise, character growth be damned!

At least Elsa gets to be her "Snow Queen" self on all of the merchandise. That feels to me like her "true" self, like Ariel's human form, and it's comforting to see that little girls have responded to it so well. I just have a bad feeling that if Elsa's demure, pre-"Let It Go" self had been more popular, Disney wouldn't have hesitated to slap the gloves back on her for the sake of merchandising... Thank goodness her "true" self is covered in sparkles, it's practically catnip for the demographic!

[(Anonymous)]

There's gotta be a sizable chunk of Tumblr that hates that look, though. It's just wrong on so many levels. I agree with what people pointed out that Mulan didn't actually hate that look at all. Heck, she never in the whole movie even WORE that sparkly, bustly, hair-way-longer-and-fuller-than-her-hair-ever-was monstrosity in the movie, so there's no way she could have passed judgment on it either way...

The fact that corporate!Disney couldn't let Mulan be herself (despite artistic!Disney letting her find that identity in her movie) and that this is what corporate!Disney thinks Mulan needs to look like to be "marketable" is a pretty sad state of affairs...

I'm guessing, though, people want to make graphic sets and they're not just going to leave Mulan out because they disagree with Disney's design for her.

[gabzillaz]

All I've seen is people angry at the change and some people telling them to get over it.

[(Anonymous)]

People who say this typically want her in her armor. But that wasn't her, either. That was Ping. Mulan being herself was in a dress. Because she was about being a kickass woman and feminine while doing it.

But then, I always figured this was pretty much her wedding dress and she chose it. It does look like something she'd wear.