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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-07 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2805 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2805 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Snape was more of a hero than James was.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
How so? /Not sarcastic

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
He protected a kid he hated and risked his life as a double-agent for Dumbledore while everyone hated him. It was a thankless job and he didn't even get any credit for it.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah but how much of a hero you are is not really how much effort you put into it.

It isn't really a competition either but whatever.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
so, what, James only decided to sacrifice his life to protect his family because he thought he'd get credit for it?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. I love how James being a bit of a jerk as a kid means he was more evil than Snape. James grew up.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Protecting someone you hate is far more difficult than protecting a family member.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
But he didn't do it for Harry, he did it for Lily. He was still doing it for someone he loved, and he might have set Harry on fire if it would have gotten him Lily back.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
He hated the kid because Snape has the emotional maturity of a particularly unripe kumquat, and everyone hated him because he was an asshole. Oh, and it turns out he was trying to commit suicide by promotion (to DADA instructor) for basically the entire series. The fact that he did what Dumbledore told him to in spite of his personal feelings make him competent, not heroic. I'm just glad that he was competent at something, since he was a failure at teaching and at being a decent human being.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet Harry called him the bravest man he ever knew and named his son after him. If Snape was merely competent I doubt Harry would feel that strongly.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Harry isn't exactly the brightest person though let's be honest.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING SNAPE HATER!!!

But seriously, that's what you get from the books? Your perspective is screwed.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Hey! I've known some very emotionally mature young kumquats.

I hate it when people are fruitist. *glowers*

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
lol yeah, he did that only after revealing the prophecy to Voldemort in the first place, trying desperately to sell out Harry and James in exchange for Lily's safety (because she would TOTALLY be okay with having her beloved husband and newborn son murdered while she was living it up. And she TOTALLY wouldn't beat the shit out of Snape for even suggesting that.) and then only agreed to protect Harry after Dumbledore guilted the everloving fuck out of him. What a guy.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny how Harry after knowing all of this still considered Snape a good man .

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I'm not sure I agree with you.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
If by hero, you mean, he only did anything he did because he was obsessed with a woman that didn't love him back...

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"But James reminds me of the kids who were mean to me in school!"

Thing is, Snape was probably the kid who you bumped into on accident, and decided that merited an "I hope your puppy dies."

So I mean, they were both assholes. One ended up being a good person; the other one was always creepy.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Except Snape was a good person at the end. Dumbledore wouldn't have trusted him with everything of he wasn't.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Snape:

- Outed Remus as a werewolf because of a grudge.

- Made Neville think he was going to kill Trevor the Toad because he... wanted to. (Whether or not Snape was actually going to is up for debate - the point is, Neville believed he was, and that's a horrible thing to do to an already nervous thirteen year old boy.)


- Bullied Harry constantly because of a grudge.

Did he do some good things? Yes. And I think part of him felt remorse, still cared for Lily, and in his own way he protected Neville, Ginny and Luna in DH by sending them to Hagrid for detention. So he wasn't all bad. But in the end, he was still petty and nasty.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, he helped out Dumbledore at great risk to himself and protected Harry because he loved his mother. Harry who had good reason to despise Snape named his son after him because of it.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Which says more good about Harry than it does about Snape.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, laughing too hysterically to think of a proper comment.
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[personal profile] nan 2014-09-07 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
hahaha

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No.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-09-08 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
eh. I don't exactly agree.

James was more of a hero. But he was also, overall, more of a dick, imo.

(I'm glad I came late to this conversation because I don't really want to get into this again on a big flamey wanky scale...)