[ SECRET POST #2897 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2897 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[kallanda_lee]

Heh, yes. I sort of wish that the whole conspiracies about Anastasia were true. The truth is far sadder.

[(Anonymous)]

History is littered with kids who died to end a bloodline. It's really depressing when you think about it.

[(Anonymous)]

What was done to all the Romanov children was horrific. Even in Communist times the Soviet Union couldn't make it sound like something strong Russia had done to free itself from tyranny. My mother said that the day they learned about it in her history class, one of the boys in her class just kept saying, "they even killed the girls?" And there was no reasoning that was acceptable, the teacher didn't even try.

What always gets me is how much to blame the rest of Europe was for not getting the Romanovs out. They were a headache for Russia, and meanwhile through Alexandra and Nicholas they were related to Victoria, and from their to practically every royal family in Europe. The British especially should have done more to retrieve them. I was watching a documentary on Prince Eddy (the older brother of George IV who died young before he could be King) that says if he had lived he would have been much more likely to have taken the risk and saved his family.

Seriously, they were failed by their family to a ridiculous degree.

[brooms]

What always gets me is how much to blame the rest of Europe was for not getting the Romanovs out.

europe has always been and will always be reluctant to meddle in russian affairs.

[brooms]

i know what you mean. reality is horrific, so sometimes i indulge in an atonement-esque revision of history and just giving everyone fairytale endings in my mind. giving them "what they lost out in life".

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe I'm missing something about the film here, but... you feel sorry for the real Anastasia but not the other children? And since when has there ever been a reason to torture and violently murder people for their crimes instead of putting them to fair trial and punishing them through the law?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. That's true of all the Romanov children, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's sad. I read the Royal Diaries's Anastasia diary, which made me feel even sorrier for her. (IIRC they it was far more accurate.)

[(Anonymous)]

It's really horrifying what happened to those kids. I felt the worst about the little boy Alexei, just because he was so young.

Still, I like that movie - probably because I saw it when I was young and really unfamiliar with Russian history, and if you take away how offensive it has the potential to be in regards to being about a real murdered girl... it's actually a really good film.

[solticisekf]

That's why I don't like history.
The movie was a bit boring and I felt that the magician Rasputin didn't fit the rest of the story.
And what's with all the thieving lying guys falling in love with the main char? Won't they lie again? I'm just not a fan of this type of character.

Interesting fact

[(Anonymous)]

Sure a lot of you know this already but when they took the Romanovs to be executed, they were dressed to the nines -- the women had tons of huge precious gemstones sewn into their clothes.

When the soldiers opened fire, then, some of the bullets freaking bounced off them because they were hitting the stones -- which scared the piss out of the soldiers.

[(Anonymous)]

I just want the dress she's wearing there.

[philippos42]

I don't understand what "THE Hacker" means.

[nightscale]

Yeah, I kind of always wished that the lost princess myths were true along with her having escaped with some of her siblings. But history is far more depressing than that sadly.

This week on History Is Depressing

[(Anonymous)]

I totally feel ya, OP. There are a lot of folks in history that deserved better. But we can't change what happened. Even alternate history fiction can't.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, when I learned actual history, I realized how insensitive the movie was, especially to turn such a dark and horrible event into the premise of a children's movie. But at the same time, I could understand the desire of a writer disturbed by what happened to want to write a happier ending, to sort of poetically bring peace to them. I'm not saying it's acceptable or okay to make into a Disney-esque musical, I just can sympathize with the desire to write an alternate reality based on rumors that offered Anastasia liberation.

[(Anonymous)]

Sad how many young radical baby communists on tumblr say the kids deserved to die because they were royalty.

[(Anonymous)]

If it helps, the movie was/is very popular in Russia. It was smartly marketed as a fairy tail, and I think the people who saw it were just as ashamed and horrified as everyone else over what happened to that family. It helps to imagine a world where not everything turned out terribly.

[(Anonymous)]

I adore that movie. Yes, it was wildly historically inaccurate, and I think anyone who watches it with their children should explain that to them. But I thought it did a pretty good job of conveying the most fundamental facts of the story: the Romanovs were the royal family; they, including several young children, were overthrown and killed in the revolution; Rasputin played a part in their downfall; and it was a violent, frightening, tragic series of events that left rumors of Anastasia's survival still circulating many years later.

The "Once Upon a December" ghost/memory ball scene in the empty palace gets me every single time. Apart from being a stunning musical animation sequence, IMO it goes a very long way toward redeeming the movie's other flaws all by itself.

[(Anonymous)]

I was studying the Russian revolution in year 11 when this movie came out. While the historical inaccuracies bug me (and can and do make me go into long diatribes, depending on my mood over 15 years later), I do enjoy the film.

It would have been simply wonderful if the Anastasia myth was true. But the myth did do its own good - it gave the Russian people hope. It's not a coincidence that the Anastasia story started around the same time as when Stalin was becoming a dictator.

[(Anonymous)]

In reality, her siblings also were kids too and they killed them all without pity (there are sad stories about them trying to protect eachother) and yes, it's very sad
Unfortunately, kids are always the ones who pay the biggest price for the faults of the adults.

[lentils]

omg OP I'm making this comment just to say, Cyberchase reference, thank you!

[(Anonymous)]

Holy typos.

[(Anonymous)]

Good thing the animated movie was a somewhat remake of a much much older live action movie based on the fictional account of the woman that claimed to be Anastasia then and not at all based or trying to be based in history.