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Names and Identity
My name is Julia. That name has continuously been in the top lists of baby names in my country (Germany) since the 70s. So I know a lot of people who are (also) named Julia. Sometimes people give me weird looks when I say a sentence like "Julia and I were sitting there" because in their head I am Julia. When they talk to me about other people who share my name they often call them "the other Julia" as in "I called Julia yesterday. *beat* You know, the other Julia."
To avoid confusion I've been given a nickname in elementary school that I absolutely hated but I went by that nickname for more than a decade. I stopped using it when I went to uni (hurray for fresh starts) so now everyone but the 3 friends I kept from school calls me by my actual name, Julia.
But I don't feel like that name is a part of my identity. I mean I'll react to it, I know when people mean me when they say it, I'll introduce myself with it. But I don't think of me as "Julia", I think of me as "ich" (German, I). Julia is another person. Julia is Julia N. from elementary school or Julia Z. one of the friends I wish I hadn't lost contact with or Julia one of the other bridesmaids at my best friend's wedding... Julia is not me.
Is it "normal" to feel like that?
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I am sort of attached to my first initial though.
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I still respond to my birth name but there's a twinge of "that's not my name anymore" whenever someone says it.
It's actually a long story, ha
The thing is that when I was little, no-one really called my by m first name. I had a nickname, and maybe until I was 8 or 9 I even signed stuff with that nickname.
As I got older people started calling me more b my "real" name which always sort of felt weird, and I downright rejected after m granddad died.The thing (without actually giving my name), my first name could be seen as a "christian" of biblical name or whatever. So I guess I had my first "crisis of faith".
After leaving elementary school, I started to hyphenate First Name-Middle name, and slowly shifted to just signing as First Initial-Middlename-Last name.
This was also around the times I started reading comics, and my 13-ear-old self wanted really liked all these Marvel names like "Peter Parker" or "Scott Summers", well you get the idea (damn ou Marvel Comics, you ruined my life lol). Since my middle and last names alliterate, I started dropping my first name altogether.I also had a of of problem at school...so when at 16 I went to high-school number 3, I introduced myself by my middle name and there's that.
At this point,I really feel weird when someone calls me b m first name - it's alien, like it isn't me. It's weird when I see it on m official mail, and not even my parents call me that anymore.
Hell, I don't even react to it, because chances of someone calling me that are so rare.
So yeah...
And, adding to that I changed a lot as a person, and also used the name change to leave some things behind me (I basically did a clean slate after I went to that third school at 16), m first name really isn't "me".
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)I've used the same pseudonym for almost 15 years. I go by this name online, think of myself by it, and some of my friends know me by it. I haven't changed my name legally though, because it would cause a lot of problems with my parents and family and I just don't see the point of putting myself through that, as well as the reactions of other people who don't know me that well. I feel like there is a weird amount of taboo attached to someone changing their name - like, I feel like work colleagues would react more negatively if I walked in and announced I was legally changing my name than they would if I said I was getting plastic surgery.
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)It's a weird name that's uncommon to find on people of my ethnicity, and it's a rare spelling to boot. I can't tell you how many times I've had it misspelled (and I've seen it misspelled 5 different ways), and eventually I just give up correcting people. When I get the chance, I plan on changing my name so I won't feel so self-conscious.
My parents wanted me to have a "unique" name, but honestly, I wish I had gotten a common name. I wouldn't have minded being "Marie S." or "Laura W."
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Mine is also popular and I regularly meet people who share it, and it just feels odd to think of myself as that.
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)So my name disconnect is that I'd love, LOVE to hear somebody call my name and it be ME they mean; and I twitchily respond to anything even remotely similar to my name because it COULD just be somebody trying to shorten it again.
Sadly, I mostly only hear my real name when somebody wants to draw it out because they're annoyed with me, or thinks I've done something particularly stupid.
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)Close friends will tend to shorten my name, so any time I hear the full version I automatically feel more serious or formal. So while I still feel that both versions are 'me', they're different 'me's' in different contexts.
My name/identity issues are more pronounced when it comes to my online aliases, which I find weird. I still feel I'm my original pseud, rather than the one I switched to a few years ago. I think that's partly to do with the fact that the new pseud was given a nickname by people in the fandom and in a very weird way it felt disrespectful on the basis of "Hey, I've chosen this name for a reason and for the sake of not typing a half dozen extra letters when you talk to me, you've arbitrarily decided to change my decision, thanks..."
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Neither name really fits me, I feel... I don't really think of myself as those names. So, I don't know if it's normal or not, but I can definitely relate.
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)In my case, my name is a common English word that's relatively uncommon as a name. I have literally never had an introduction with someone new where they didn't either immediately mispronounce it (made up example: "I'm Michelle." "Nice to meet you, Michael!") or where I didn't have to repeat it a few times or say the definition of the word before they understood. It's incredibly frustrating and stressful.
I've ended up really hating my name because of it.
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-26 12:29 am (UTC)(link)When I was younger I didn't like my first name since I am Asian (living in America) and my parents gave me an Asian name. In school, kids were always asking what my name meant, and it was tiring to explain that my name is a part of a phrase to make a meaning, so my first and middle name meant "Shining Star" but separately they can mean many things. I also hated follow up questions that came with it ("Where are you from?" "Do you still have family back in the mother land?" "Can you read Chinese?" "Do you like anime?" "Do you really eat rice with chopsticks?"). If I had grown up in a more diverse city/town, I think I would have coped with it better, but I grew up in mostly Caucasian communities so it was a bit hard at times being the token kid in class.
A close friend of mine is also Asian, and she has an Asian name but ever since she was young, she had the nickname "Judy" that those of us close to her call her by that name. Our parents were friends, so we grew up as friends, but we didn't attend the same school until we were in high school, and I remember being so weirded out that people were addressing her by her real name. And it was surreal when I would call her "Judy" and people would wonder why I was calling her that or I could see it in their eyes like, "Is her name Judy? I've been calling her by a different name.". LOL Later, I remember asking her about it and she told me that it was odd when people who are not her close friends or family calling her by her nickname and not her real name.
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-26 12:37 am (UTC)(link)But now, I don't really feel like anything. My name doesn't feel like me but when I think of anything else, nothing else does too. I've also noticed how weird names at all are. Like, I do these surveys where they want the associate you're speaking to to ask for your name and then use it. That just seems so false to me because no one I know uses a name at all. On the phone, you say, "Hey, it's me," and when you see each other, it's just, "Hi."
At most, you might say the name when talking about someone but still... we just don't actually use names that much (small family probably). So, all the names are very underused and sound odd.
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My family doesn't use my nickname, though. I very distinctly remember one time my mother calling my name, and me completely failing to respond to her. I heard her, but in my head, she wasn't calling for me, she was calling for a classmate, a coworker, some random stranger. She called me again and then I remembered I was the only one in the house with the name. It was still weird, like I had given up my claim to the name. Ever since then, I've felt kind of uncomfortable being called by my actual name.
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Eventually, I DO plan to legally change the name to LB Lee, because that's what all my creative work goes under, and when people cite me or my art, I ALWAYS have them use the LB Lee name.
I just haven't done it yet because I'm afraid that with the paperwork and local social services, it'll somehow end in yet ANOTHER paperwork error with my disability that leads to frantically trying to keep my bennies from getting axed.
(Paranoid? Not in THIS state. But I'll spare you.)
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-26 02:44 am (UTC)(link)Nobody in my family calls me Jessica and none of my friends ever have.
I'm okay with "Jess" and I'll probably cope with most of your shitty nickname choices. My high school friends gave me the same nickname that my dad goes by though, and it sucked. I hated that asshole.
Doctors offices and those places are so confusing for me. I sit there thinking "geez. that Jessica girl must be deaf." OHHHHHHH. THAT'S MY NAME.
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(Anonymous) 2015-01-26 04:28 am (UTC)(link)Like you, I still introduce myself with my name (I never changed it, it was just the name given to me at birth). I get what you mean about thinking of yourself as "me" or "I" cause I totally do that too.
It's nice to hear all these years might not be because of my gender exploration.
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