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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-07 04:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2957 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Makeup was first seen
In nineteen hundred fourteen
(which was rather late for me)

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dinogrrl: Tron Uprising Beck is worried (Beck worried)

[personal profile] dinogrrl 2015-02-07 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
...huh? What is this about?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree completely about blue glitter eyeshadow and mascara, but I assume you make an exception for films set in eras where kohl was used?
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[personal profile] replicantangel 2015-02-07 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Because woman in reality didn't wear makeup before WWI? That's untrue, but it's literally the only "logic" I can find for this secret.
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[personal profile] a_potato 2015-02-07 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
They did, but in the years leading up to WWI (which I'm assuming is the period to which OP is referring, rather than the entirety of human history pre-1914), the style was very...muted and "natural." You weren't supposed to be able to tell that a woman was wearing make-up.

[personal profile] solticisekf 2015-02-07 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Pillars of the Earth has a very natural looking make-up. It's set in the Middle Ages. Downtowm Abbey is also pre WWII. BBC Merlin actually is not that hard on the make-up, though it's extremely historically inaccurate.

How do you feel about men wearing make-up?

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Even of they're set in ... say... ancient Egypt?

OP

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Why?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound like my mother

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't not watch them, but it does bug me the whole way. I mentally imagine other characters calling them painted whores behind their backs.

Guess the eyes

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The picture looks like Brittany Spears. Right or wrong?
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[personal profile] skeletal_history 2015-02-07 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda get this. It bugs me when women wear their hair down in public in tv/movies set before the 20th century, or when period pieces filmed in the 1940s have actresses with contemporary waxy red bowed lips. Like, what...why would they do that? Oh she's a Victorian fashionplate from head to toe, but her lips are pure 1943.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-02-07 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
What gets me is shaved legs and pits in eras where that would not have happened. I wouldn't agree that no one wore makeup before the "Great War" because that is not at all true. But I do want the look to actually match up at least somewhat to what people would have looked like during the particular era. It doesn't completely ruin a movie for me, but I do notice.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
psst.. actors wear make-up too.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Who calls it the Great War anymore? What is this, 1930?

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ginainthekingsroad: a scan of a Victorian fashion plate; a dark haired woman with glasses (me?) (Lady with Glasses)

[personal profile] ginainthekingsroad 2015-02-07 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
But Victorian women totally did wear makeup all the time? Face creams that we could call "tinted moisturizer" today, face powder was very popular (especially "pearl powder"), rouge, light pink/red lip color, dark powders for the lashes/brows affixed with beeswax or resins, etc. I'm sure the woman in my icon wore them all.

Excessive makeup-- especially in a socially inappropriate setting-- would be looked down upon, but that's a long-standing social more.

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elaminator: Patterns used found at http://jedania.deviantart.com/art/Glitter-GIMP-Patterns-187921791 (Rat Queens: Violet/Hannah)

[personal profile] elaminator 2015-02-07 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure what the actual secret is about but cool eyeshadow.
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[personal profile] a_potato 2015-02-07 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my gods, OP, I feel you so hard. We differ in the sense that I don't refuse to watch movies that do this, but it definitely bothers me.

I also, incidentally, get very annoyed when I'm reading a piece of writing set in the late 1800s/very early 1900s and female characters are described as wearing "bras and panties" and/or male characters are described as wearing "boxers." Nothing gets on my nerves quite the way inaccurate period underwear does, which...I suppose is pretty weird.

BUT YES! Accuracy in make-up and costuming! Very important.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
People were definitely wearing makeup in the Renaissance.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Image: close-up on a woman’s closed eyes, with blue eyeshadow

Text: I refuse to watch films set before the Great War in which women wear visible make-up. Which means…all of them.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
This is terribly apparent with Japanese historical dramas. None of them have blackened teeth, despite how prevalent the practice was.

The other thing that always makes me snicker a bit with Japanese historicals is that the actors never actually shave their heads for that samurai topknot haircut; they just have wigs, and in most TV dramas it's REALLY apparent that it's a wig.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
Kohl goes back to Ancient Egypt, so you best do some research, OP!

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, it's teeth. It completely throws me out of a drama when the lead has those inappropriately modern-looking white, straightened teeth.

It's particularly true of American actors, and even more so for the men, perhaps because they have fewer options for enhancing themselves than actresses do.

It's supposed to be the Middle Ages, or Victorian times, or a future dystopia where the world has gone to ruin, yet the lead character has shiny white fake capped teeth? I don't stop watching, but I notice it every single second and it ruins every scrap of believability.

I also notice inappropriate makeup, but somehow that's not so bad because it's unlikely but at least it's not physically impossible.

I love that talk show character in the Hunger Games who's all about the fake teeth as it perfectly illustrates my feelings on this point.