[ SECRET POST #3040 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3040 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Once Upon a Time]


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02.
[Tree of Savior]


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03.
[Disturbed's 'Indestructible']


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04.
[Whitechapel]


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05.


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06.
[Bill Bailey]


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07.
[Total War: Warhammer]


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08.


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09.
[Morph]


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10.
[Harry Potter]


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11.
[FFXIV, RuPaul's Drag Race]


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12.
[Monstrous Regiment by Terry Pratchett]


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13. [SPOILERS for Nightcrawler, Gone Girl]



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14. [SPOILERS for Devil Survivor]



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15. [SPOILERS for Age of Ultron]



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16. [SPOILERS for Broadchurch]



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17. [WARNING for incest, abuse, suicide, and probably necrophilia]

[Sankarea]


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18. [WARNING for abuse]

[Steven Universe]










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #434.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Pratchett was a sexist piece of shit. News at 11.

[(Anonymous)]

oh, word?

[(Anonymous)]

It's pretty obvious in Good Omens. Bleh.

[(Anonymous)]

1) How so

2) You know he only wrote half of that book right

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

I'd be more inclined to blame Gaiman for that, honestly.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure he wrote the part where he described a skinny woman as "a skeleton in a Dior dress, with tanned skin stretched almost to snapping point".

And the "faggot" and "poofter" slurs.

[(Anonymous)]

been a while since i've read it, but wasn't that something in the context of a description of Famine

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. It's still a gross description of models.

[(Anonymous)]

tbh it was too tryhard and west-centric to make a social commentary out of Famine being on Earth in the form of body policing making women anorexic.

[arcadiaego]

Good Omens was written 25 years ago and with another author so if you're going to sum up someone as a sexist piece of shit full stop you probably need to cite more examples.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the entire story of angua wasn't proof enough for some people?

[(Anonymous)]

the story of angua has some shitty undertones I'll admit, but I'm not sure it's enough to draw the conclusion of "sexist piece of shit"

[(Anonymous)]

What about the entire cast of female characters in Unseen academicals?

The fact that Dora Bell Dearheart was literally just the prize for Moist to win at the end?

Every plotpoint involving the seamstresses?

The fact that Monstrous regiment has a FUCKING rape in the backstory?

[(Anonymous)]

Rape is ~~*~realism~~*~

(except we never include male rape in our fantasy series but shhh)

[(Anonymous)]

One possible rape in what, forty books? Wow, how awful. Especially when the book in question is about war. Someone's really trying to get offended.

[(Anonymous)]

So just one little rape is OK? Fuck. you.

[(Anonymous)]

Monstrous Regiment has like 15 female characters, all the main characters are women, they do just about everything significant in the story, and you're going to throw that all out because one of them had a rape in their backstory?

And as regards the seamstresses - I'm not sure what you can really say is bad there, besides the fact that they're prostitutes. They're good characters - some of the most consistently respected in the text, and I would say one of the only civic leaders who's presented as being consistently decent in the text - who happen to be prostitutes. I'm not sure it's really a bad thing to have characters who are intelligent, and respected, and prostitutes.

And I don't really remember Unseen Academicals well enough to talk about it, or the actual plot of Making Money, so I can't say. But I still maintain this is pretty flimsy evidence for "sexist piece of shit".

[(Anonymous)]

Sin City and the like have female main characters too. Doesn't make Frank Miller and other comic dudebro writers any less sexist.

[blitzwing]

Isn't the rape/sexual assault rape for women 1 in 5? So statistically, 3 of the characters you mention should have a rape/sexual assault in their background. They're actually under-representing it.

[othellia]

Wait, what was wrong about the women in Unseen Academicals?

[dreemyweird]

??? I was actually really pleased about Angua's story as a teen, specifically because of her gender. And about Sybil's. I'm not trying to claim that Pterry is some sort of feminist icon, but I think most of his depictions of female characters are fair and well-balanced.

[(Anonymous)]

Old white man hates women? This isn't even worthy of news at eleven

[(Anonymous)]

g2b radfemanon

[(Anonymous)]

I really, really wish people would stop confusing sexism with misogyny.

Do the two often go hand in hand? Yes. Can someone hold sexist views without being misogynist? Also yes. We live in a sexist society. Almost all of us hold some kind of sexist view, and a lot of times people are sexist without even realizing it and while not actually harboring any ill will toward women. That's the more insidious kind of sexism, really. But we don't talk about it as much because it's more satisfying and makes us feel like we're more in control to pretend the only kind of sexism is the virulent, active kind.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. And this comment says pretty much about you. Pink is awesome and a great color! Girls who are 7 and love pink are as awesome as those who don't. Doesn't make someone sexist. The whole Tiffany Aching setting with the witches and kelders and so on is very feminist.