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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-16 06:17 pm

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Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-16 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think that when someone writes a fic with a lot of whump and hurt characters, the fanfic author should follow up with some comfort and healing?

To me, it seems like an incomplete story without the comfort. What do you think?

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-16 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny, I would normally frame it the other way - do you have to have some hurt to justify the comfort, or can you just have nothing but fluffy comfort?

I think my tastes are somewhat different from most of the rest of fandom.

But in any case, I think it's fine to just have whatever you think is interesting. If you want to just do hurt, that's your prerogative. That's kind of the whole point of fandom.
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Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-07-16 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you consider "comfort" then? Because in my mind, the word comfort implies that someone needs to be comforted about something. That could be something really mild, but it seems there does have to be some sort of hurt in order to have comfort.

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-16 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I replied to you below! But basically, I guess my position is that I can come up with reasons for someone needing comfort without having to go into detail about the hurt.

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

[personal profile] solticisekf 2015-07-16 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that a few paragraphs about a character having a headache or a bad mood is enough to launch a comforting fluffy mcfluffin, fire all canons, etc. I miss all the fic about a character having a sudden bout of cold and an ensuing comfort. Ten years ago it was more popular.
Edited 2015-07-16 23:39 (UTC)

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-16 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep! I'm certainly 100% okay with that and will read it all day for any pairing I even halfway ship.
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Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-07-16 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think they should have to. But I don't read whump fics without comfort. I can't do downer endings most of the time.
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Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-07-16 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think comfort can't exist without hurt, but I do think hurt can exist without comfort. I like straight up torture fics where things end with the characters dead. All I need is some sort of resolution. I do love my comfort, but sometimes an angsty ending is good.

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-16 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like - and this is going to sound so emo - but I feel like there's enough fucked-up shit in the world that you don't really need to justify comfort. It comes pre-justified.

That's just my view, though.
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Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-07-16 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That's still a hurt, though?

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-16 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, sure, but it's sort of a background level of hurt
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Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-07-16 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think they should, but sometimes it would be nice aka the iron man identity theft fanfic I read last night and was not expecting the sad. I'd like comfort fix after that but also I like it as a punch in the face standalone.

Then there are other fanfics where Im only there for the hurt and the comfort takes away from it.
Edited (Wtf autocorrect ) 2015-07-16 23:10 (UTC)
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Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

[personal profile] loracarol 2015-07-16 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think the author has to write it, but I know I won't like it without the comfort, or at least the promise of future comfort written into the story.

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Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2015-07-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, hurt without comfort ain't my cup of tea.

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of like hurt/minimal comfort. Hurt/cold comfort maybe? Idk maybe its cause I am so pessimistic but I like stories where maybe the comfort isn't that helpful for whatever reason. Idk why.

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I like hurt/comfort to have a balance. You need the one to make the other the best it can be. Fics that are just hurt make me depressed at best, and at worst come across as the author trying too hard to be edgy and artistic. Fics that are just comfort are usually narratively unsatisfying to me, and at their worst they can seem so sappy as to be OOC.

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Going to echo a comment above and say that I like hurt with minimal comfort. Meaning not that I don't want comfort, but that I don't want to dwell on the comfort and healing. It's enough for me to have an abbreviated epilogue where the hurt character is put back together, or even for it mostly to take place off screen.

Basically, I don't want to dwell on endless discussions of fevers and changing bandages, and feeding of soup, etc. etc. I feel like that's a different subset of hurt/comfort, and I prefer the whumpage, with the attendant sympathy and/or rescue, but without an extended convalescence.

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well put!

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously they CAN, but I like them better together. Tastes vary,

Re: Hurt/comfort: Can one exist without the other?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-17 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
I generally prefer to have some comfort with my hurt (although I would still rather have more focus on the hurting aspect), but every once in a while I just get in the mood to read about a certain character get absolutely wrecked without any comfort happening in the story...even if I love that character. A lack of comfort doesn't necessarily make some stories seem incomplete; it just depends on the fic. Sometimes an abundance of comfort would just seem unrealistic or tacked on while there are other times when a story just doesn't seem right without some comfort going on.