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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-01 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3132 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3132 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
what a fucking weird comparison

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Why because it's a real person? That's the most important comparison you can get out of fiction.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
...and suddenly the recent Groan & Wail "op-ed" by Johnny-boy makes perfect sense; do the Yankee Doodle "advisers" honestly think we are stupid enough not to catch onto their plagiarizing ways? Even worse, they're plagiarizing tactics that got Romney TANKED. What is really going on here?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
They were both popular hotshots who bullied those beneath them. Romney and his friends held a kid down and cut his hair, James and his friends used magic to humiliate a kid in front of his peers.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Meant to reply to the first comment.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It's accurate insofar as both of them did a bullying thing, and probably did others

but using the one to draw comparisons from the other is fucking weird, given the different contexts and the lack of any real reason to suppose that the people or situations involved were the same

like i guess my point is that James & Mitt are only similar insofar as any people who've ever bullied anyone are similar - so why those two, specifically

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but I doubt James would have continued on like that.

A lot of people like to shit on him and Sirius for it, but it's CANON in OotP that Sirius realizes it was a stupid thing to do:

[[Lupin looked sideways at Sirius, then said, 'Look, Harry, what you've got to understand is that your father and Sirius were the best in the school at whatever they did — everyone thought they were theheight of cool — if they sometimes got a bit carried away — '

'If we were sometimes arrogant little berks, you mean,' said Sirius.]]

And then later...

[['Of course he was a bit of an idiot!' said Sirius bracingly, 'we were all idiots! Well — not Moony so much,' he said fairly, looking at Lupin.

But Lupin shook his head. 'Did I ever tell you to lay off Snape?' he said. 'Did I ever have the guts to tell you I thought you were out of order?']]

It's pretty obvious Sirius and Remus had the maturity to concede that they hadn't been the best of people as teenagers, and if James had grown up similarly he too would have probably admitted to it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Why?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
But that doesn't make any sense. Why Mitt Romney and not any other person who was a bully in high school?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Same.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Why do you believe that he would have grown up to think that way? Is there evidence of this when he was an adult?

Otherwise, no, it's just as (if not more) likely that he would have grown up to feel any number of an array of different ways about his teen years. Like, you know, the gajillion other people who are not Mitt Romney who bullied when they were kids.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
IA

I also feel ginchy for assuming that this is a James vs Snape thing where someone's shitting on James to justify a defense of Snape

but I totally assume this is a James vs Snape thing

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Pottermore shows him being a dick for no reason to Lily's family. Except that he got a kick out of it. But since it's Vernon and Petunia, they ~deserved~ him being a shit to them.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I really dislike James, but -- no, I highly doubt that he'd have turned into such a person.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Then why do you dislike him?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
As a non American: what is this bullying incident and why do people still care about Romney?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Romney had a gay kid held down and forcibly cut his hair.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I genuinely don't know how to react to this secret.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know why this secret is making me laugh so hard. What a weird comparison

(Anonymous) 2015-08-01 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao i needed a good laugh today

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
He was already doing that. And that's my entire problem with James Potter. He wasn't a nice person. It doesn't excuse how Snape reacted, but Jesus, James was still an unrepentant bully.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
This has to be the dumbest secret ever posted to this comm.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-02 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
did you wait three years until Romney was completely non-relevant to submit this?