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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-16 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3147 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3147 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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diet_poison: (Default)

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-08-16 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
so is this a headcanon that Fluttershy is Native? someone drawing her as Native for fun? appropriation? I'm not sure what is going on here.

Is it considered Not Okay to draw someone in Native traditional wear if the artist isn't Native? (Is that an accurate depiction of the garb for a particular tribe? does it make a difference if it is?)

All of these are honest questions. I honestly don't know a whole hell of a lot about the social politics surrounding Native Americans and appropriation. I'm curious as to what exactly is going on.

(Also, like someone else asked: how do you know this person is friends with a pedophile? I want the deets come on)

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
http://zamii070receipts.tumblr.com/list

Here's what I found!
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[personal profile] vethica 2015-08-16 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
...okay, some of these are trying way too hard.

e: "Drew genderbents"? Really. Really.

ee: apparently shipping unhealthy pairings is "apologism" now?
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, some of that stuff is grade-A tumblr bullshit, but the pedophilia thing is pretty chilling - especially since the dude is actually convicted.

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SA, more stuff on the pedo thing

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vethica: (Default)

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[personal profile] vethica 2015-08-16 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, one more.

eee: "sexualized underage female characters" they're in swimsuits in a cartoony style oh my god

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
http://cabell.tumblr.com/post/72799887939/the-alternative-spelling-of-genderbend-is

http://izzybutt.tumblr.com/post/72821710046/the-term-genderbending-is-transphobic-say-instead

Apparently it's transphbic now? IDGI
fishnchips: (Heh*drop*)

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[personal profile] fishnchips 2015-08-16 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you know? Genderbends are totally the most transphobic thing anyone can do!
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-08-17 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
The genderbends were a commission too. lol.

(Also one of the posts on that blog says that white people can't cosplay Asians, which like--- renders 99% of anime cosplay 'problematic'? Okay.)

I mean if the pedophilia is true, they deserve to be slammed, but bringing in some of the other stuff honestly just makes them look less credible.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Drew genderbent Homestuck trolls. Because it's not like that's actually ridiculously common or anything, or like there was (is? IDK anymore) an official crossdressing/rule 63 art thread on the official forums or anything.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
don't believe everything you read on the internet, kiddo

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that is one whole hell of a lot of reaching.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This is obviously someone with a grudge using tumblr's callout culture to get back at them. Stop supporting slander and dogpiling and maybe learn to spot emotional manipulation.
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[personal profile] comradesmiler 2015-08-16 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Christ, most of those are BS.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
you do know most of that is tumblrina sjw stuff?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
The way some people take this shit super seriously like this makes me never want to draw fan art again for a long time, if ever. Cripes.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That list is actively evil.

Nothing on the list is evil. The list itself is.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-08-16 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
They are trying SO HARD and it's so terribly stupid =/ wtf is wrong with these people

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure I know who runs that blog. They're fifteen, have four "alters" and claim to be "genderflux, between agender and female." and present "between transnull and feminine so i label myself as femflux or abvene."

Does anyone know what those words even mean?

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
They translate to cis girl.

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bur: Mami looking kind of surprised at something off to the side. (Surprised Mami)

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[personal profile] bur 2015-08-16 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
...abvene? They have no bvenes? Or are the opposite of whatever vene is...?

I'm so confused.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-08-16 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
wow, I have to agree with Veth - they are reaching pretty hard on some of those. A lot of it honestly sounds like a sheltered kid who doesn't know better, and some of it isn't even this Horrible Thing this other blogger is making it out to be.

The comment on Native Fluttershy did make me go "...really?" but again, it sounded like Zamii meant well and didn't realize they were putting their foot in it. And I know this might piss some people off but hostility really isn't a useful response.

I didn't see a lot there about the pedophile friend thing, just one broken link?

ETA: ok, he's a pedophile (or an ephebophile as the case may be, creepy either way) but is she friends with him? Does he have any remorse? I'd need to see details before making a big ol' judgment call and to be honest I'm kind of inclined to not poke my nose into something like this on the internet when there's always so much you can't see.
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(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay the "white-washed Sardonyx by removing her afro" thing is kinda dumb.
It's clearly still there, it's just drawn in a different style.
:/

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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-08-16 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
So much reaching. Think I'll go reblog some of their art, got some mutuals who will like it

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
This blog is everything I hate about tumblr SJ. People trying to justify their pet peeves with an artist by reaching for SJ arguments, even if they're far-fetched. The fact that Homestuck and Steven Universe fandom think that drawing a fucked up ship makes someone abusive is bad enough. It's nothing more than reaching for reasons to justify dehumanizing someone and hurting them. For people who try to act so attuned to abuse culture, they don't get when they're participating in it. It's fucked up to watch.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for that list!

Wow, though -- that list definitely reeks of artist grudge more than anything else. Like, I feel like I need to make a counter list to explain everything wrong with that list (bad faith interpretations of everything that comes out of this person's mouth, gender bends = transphobic?, ship/kink policing like WHOA, using the word shota = endorsing pedophilia?, race essentialism (Indian people have to have big noses and black people have to have afros??)).