[ SECRET POST #3226 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3226 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Animal Crossing]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Excess Baggage]


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[Sue Perkins]


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[Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans]


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[Vin Diesel]


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[Hemlock Grove]









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Comments

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

We as a species are basically doomed because of medical advances that allow people with serious genetic problems to live to adulthood and reproduce and pass on their problems, so those people can breed with other people with problems, and it's all going to go down the toilet. It makes me nervous for the future. And I can't talk about it with anyone, obviously.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Hi eugenics anon
As someone with a developmental disability, bite me.
I don't feel a bit of sympathy for you being ~afraid~ that people with "bad genetics" are daring to "breed".

Abloobloobloo fuck off

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Aaaand this is why I can only say this in the unpopular thread.

FYI, not that you care, my genetics are also fucked.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Well sorry but after seeing a dozen or more "unpopular opinions"about how disabled people need to be "euthanized"or forcefully sterilized,I'm not feeling quite so tolerant about this kind of thing. I'm tired of being dehumanized (breeding , really?)

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Breeding is literally what occurs, though, sorry if you don't like a word. We are technically animals.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, so just because you feel like crap about your situation, you think everyone else should feel bad, too.

Nah, thanks bro, I'm fine. I happen to really like living.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Right, because those are exactly the words I said. Right. I totally want everyone to feel bad, which is why I don't say anything about this except anonymously in "Unpopular Opinions", and just fret quietly to myself the rest of the time. Right.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Oh. Yeah. I've had this same thought myself.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

:( Well at least it's not just me.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, we were discussing it largely from a Darwinist perspective - just looking at the way evolution works and how we may circumvent some of those things with medical interventions and what the outcome might be.

But it's so politically incorrect to even discuss, even if you are merely focusing in on the more scientific elements of it.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

We as a species are doomed regardless.

100% of all species that thrive on Earth... all go extinct.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

How many of those have the ability to comprehend their doom though, that's the point.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

You also have the ability to drag your gaze away from your navel and comprehend stuff other than your doom.

Maybe try reading some stuff on upworthy instead of whining about how we're all going to inevitably die.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, you do realize we're no longer living in the Middle Ages, and healthcare is 1000x better, and life in general is progressively becoming less shitty for a whole lot of people, right?

Just because you THINK the world is one way doesn't mean it is.

Also, why shouldn't people get to live to adulthood? They're just existing, jesus.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I do realize that. That's why the words "medical advances" appeared in my post.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[kallanda_lee]

The thing is, though, that even if that were true the medical advances will compensate for that.

So it's only an issue if society collapses to the point of modern medicine not existing anymore. And then we have bigger problems anyway.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

That's probably the issue. I have a lot of "what-if" thoughts, and it just upsets me, should medicine hypothetically fail us, we're fucked.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[kallanda_lee]

Yeah, but in than scenario I'd be more worried about being wiped out by influenza than about having a certain ratio of nonviable children.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[diet_poison]

I was actually thinking about this the other day. I think your viewpoint is awfully simplistic for a number of reasons. The medical advancements that allow us to breed despite genetic problems are the same advancements that allow us to treat conditions that are the result of those problems. And people still overwhelmingly die of conditions not caused by genetics.* Why specifically - assuming you're not trolling - do you think this will cause us to go "down the toilet"? Are you envisioning a future where suddenly none of that medical help will be available, and where genetic disorders that affect survival and reproductive ability have a very large representation in the human gene pool?

*not counting stuff like cancer that you have genetic predispositions for, since that stuff typically happens long after people reproduce

Surviving is not the same as being selected for

[feotakahari]

Twenty years ago, my immune disorder would have killed me. I am not planning to reproduce and pass on the genes for it, and in general, I suspect people with immune disorders are less inclined to have children even if they survive long enough. My not being dead is not a threat.

Of course, this is assuming no evolutionary advantage to illness. Som genetic illnesses that have survived into the modern day are linked to reduced occurrence of one or more types of cancer, so if cancer is harder to treat, those illnesses may become more prevalent. This is not a change for the worse, only a difference. (See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antagonistic_pleiotropy_hypothesis)

Re: Unpopular opinions

[belladonna_took]

I'm not really bothered by the fact that you feel this way, but I do think you might want to consider the larger issue is not that sick people breed, but rather, we as a society are ignorant of many of the processes we could be using to detect or identify health problems before we pass them on.

My own condition has a 50% chance of being passed on to any child I have. If I had an easily identifiable mutation and I wanted children, I could be a good candidate for embryonic screening. If my child still had the potential to pass on a genetic condition despite not having a mutation that caused them problems, they could be informed about their options in the future too.

I think it's a good idea to have an in depth discussion with your doctor before deciding to have children, even if you are healthy. One of my closest friends is the seriously ill daughter of two very healthy former professional athletes who both just happened to be carriers of a particular gene.

I think everyone should be well-informed about preventative medicine, and be able to access it.
That would be a much healthier world, I think, than sorting the good from the bad like you would if you were selling fruit.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Well I happen to be fat and have a predisposition to diabetes. I have no intention of passing on either of those, as the only children I ever want to have are ones with fur that say "Meow!".

I also don't think either of my brothers are inclined to pass on their predisposition to those problems either, and in Noddy's case, his narcolepsy as well.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Considering that there's a shitton of people in this world: Should medicine and science fail one day and people you'd deem "unfit for survival" slowly died off, there'd still be enough people around to secure the survival of the human race.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

We have advances that allow us to treat those medical conditions. We also have advances that are allowing us to learn how to screen for those conditions, and to select against them. Will people still be born with them? Sure. Knowing how to screen for a condition doesn't mean everyone will want to, but the option is already pretty widely used for potentially lethal genetic conditions, so there's a good chance that trend will continue.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I don't particularly agree with what you're saying, but I think the people who are jumping all over you about it and making it extremely personal just so they can be righteously angry at you are being dicks.

And I'm sorry you feel this way. Personally, I have a similar level/type of fear about humans irrevocably fucking up the earth to the point where a massive number of us get wiped out by some kind of catastrophic natural/environmental event. Although I think the part I fear more is everything before that, where the earth's environment becomes increasingly toxic and resources become increasingly scarce and all the people who are not immensely wealthy are forced to live increasingly hard, increasingly sickly lives.