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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-06 03:28 pm

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes it is.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
You're going to need to cite your sources on that one.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The only people who celebrate it are North American Christians. Therefore, it is a Christian holiday.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like it is a United Statsian Holiday there, mate.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. A Christian United Statsian holiday.

You can deny all you want that the US is a country founded by Christians, run based on Christian values, and has always had a Christian-dominated culture. Your denial has no effect on reality.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
ummm. we do have thanksgiving in Europe. Only about a month earlier, because it's traditionally held when the main harvest is done and we thank god (or in older times, any of the gods wherever you lived) for what they've given us.
The way it's celebrated is different, sure, but then have a look at how different american christmas is from the many european ways to celebrate christmas. you'd have to claim that's not a christian holiday, either. I mean, where did this bastardized version of St. Nicolas/Odin/Whatever even come from? what's with the reindeers? Stockings? Huh? When I was little we only had the "Christkind" which is supposed to be baby jesus but in practice is imagined as a form of st. Lucy, an angelic female creature with blond hair and a crown of stars.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
lots of non-Xtians celebrate it too, including me.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-06 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it definitely isn't. You can take a Christian approach to how you celebrate it, and many people do, but it isn't on the Christian holiday calendar and it does not celebrate a religious event.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, so explain why it doesn't exist in non-Christian cultures.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Because the holiday as we know it was invented in the US and Canada, which happen to have Christian majorities. It may pop up elsewhere due to historical associations with those countries (i.e. colonialism) and modern cultural ties, but North American-style Thanksgiving is not really celebrated outside of North America, even in places that are mostly Christian. Like, you're not going to go to the Vatican and be served turkey and pumpkin pie.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-06 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it's an American federal holiday? Do you think July 4th (American Independence day) is a Christian holiday?
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-12-07 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Go away, Proud Pagan.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-12-06 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it isn't? It literally isn't celebrated in any other country except America, and America isn't the only nation that has Christians by far.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Not true. It's celebrated in both the US and Canada, and IDK about the US, but here in Canada it IS a Christian holiday and the only people who celebrate it are Christians.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-06 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Canadian Thanksgiving =/= American Thanksgiving

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
but here in Canada it IS a Christian holiday and the only people who celebrate it are Christians.

What? I'm sitting here in Canada right now, I'm pretty sure I'm much older than you, and this is the first I've ever heard of Thanksgiving being a Christian holiday. (And I'm Catholic, so I presume that's considered nominally Christian by most people.)

I'd say the concept of Thanksgiving here is definitely borrowed from the Americans, but is more of a fall supper kind of thing. It is not a big deal. It's a day off work, with a turkey dinner. There aren't any religious aspects to it, unless you count "being mindful or thankful for the good things in your life" a religious thing.

But why let any of that get in the way of the peculiar argument you seem intent on making?

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I am Canadian and VERY atheist. My entire family is atheist. Many of my friends are atheist. And we all love Thanksgiving.

You're trying so hard here, anon, but your argument just keeps getting thinner and thinner and more detached from reality.

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-12-07 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to presume it's mostly celebrated by descendants of original settles, who were Christian, so there'd be a large overlap?

So, by numbers, it would be a holiday celebrated b a lot of Christians, but that doesn't make it a Christian holiday. There is literally noting in the Bible (or in Orthodox, Catholic, gnostic or whichever Christian related tradition about it).

It's basically just an American holiday/tradition.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Shit brb going to text all my Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, and atheist friends and tell them to stop celebrating Thanksgiving and spread the word to their families.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't believe for a second that you actually have Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu friends.

Also, atheists don't count. Most of them are former Christians and are thus culturally Christian.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-06 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
My best friend of 16+ years is Jewish. What garbage is that that you assume an American anon on here doesn't have any friends that aren't Christian or atheist? You can't actually be serious. I know you don't really believe this.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
LMAO. You're either not American or you live in Nowheresville, Midwest and think the whole rest of the country is the same and I feel sorry for you.

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[personal profile] meredith44 2015-12-06 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a teacher in a fairly diverse community. This year, the three Jewish children, the Punjabi child, and one of the Chinese children (other children might have, but I didn't hear about it) all celebrated Thanksgiving this year. In previous years, children of other religions and cultures who were in my class also celebrated it. It is an American holiday, not a Christian one.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
1. The more you say, the more convinced I become that you're actually just a troll.

2. If you're truly a Canadian, you're not anything like 99% of the Canadian's I've ever met. Which is a lot of them considering I am one.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
fuck off biblethumper.