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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-27 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3311 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3311 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
That's not why Snape joined them. It's not at all uncommon for people to be drafted into cults because they're looking for acceptance. That's what happened with him.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
the poor little nazi baby

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
after he called her a (wizard equivalent of a) racial slur

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Not just her, but every other Muggleborn as well according to Lily.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
So you support MRAs, right? Every single one of them was rejected by one or more women, and wanted to find someplace they felt accepted. They found a group that validates the pain and humiliation they feel, just like Snape did.

So yeah. Big MRA fan? Or are we about to hear that it's TOTALLY DIFFERENT when it's a guy you have a crush on?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Not a fan of MRAs, they're basically the male version of the Tumblr feminists.

I don't support the Death Eaters either. You do remember that Snape regrets his affiliation with them and spent the rest of his life trying to atone for it, right?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
He wasn't trying to atone for being a racist. In fact he kept being a racist bully. He was only trying to atone for his role in Lily's death.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
When the portrait of Phineas Black referred to Hermione as a 'mudblood' Snape got angry at him and told him not to use that word. So clearly he didn't still hold onto those views as an adult.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Then why'd he keep bullying and abusing Muggle-borns?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Did he bully them because they were? Because he was an asshole to nearly everyone except for Slytherins.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Because the Slytherins were all pureblood racists, yeah.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
And you're dodging the question.

Show me an example of Snape showing prejudice to a half-blood as an adult because of their parentage.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
He certainly bullied them, and he was certainly unwilling to defend them from the racist depredations of his charges, so it's just really difficult for me to see his commitment to the principles of anti-racism.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
List of Muggle-borns he "bullied and abused" needed, please.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have my books with me but Hermione just for starters

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Because she was a know-it-all who would talk out of turn, not because of her parentage.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
She wasn't a 'know-it-all'. She was a smart, motivated student. Please don't frame it as though Snape's reaction was in any way justified - it was unjustified whether or not it was an outgrowth of his racism. That's kinda disgusting.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit... we have actually hit the point of a Snapefan saying not only that Snape's bullying of children was excusable or okay, but that IT DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN.

I feel like I should be collecting on a bet right now, but I didn't have the foresight to make one.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
And he happily let Draco have a go at her every chance he got, even when Lucius Malfoy himself obliquely pointed out Draco was only screwing himself over being so openly spiteful and racist.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Tbf, it's entirely possible he only got angry because that's the word that finally cost him Lily.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Wow you really have no idea what the MRM is about. Try thinking about things like how male abuse victims aren't believed and stuff. And btw, it's entirely possible to be a MRA and a feminist--they go together, contrary to what wags like you claim.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
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Theoretically possible: in practice very much not so. Be honest. Most self-identified MRA individuals or groups are chock full of misogyny and at times terrifying levels of violent language towards any woman who dares step out of their very narrow line of "acceptable" female behaviour or challenges sexism in any way.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-01-28 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Fucking thank you. Why do people think Lily's rejection (or more accurately, Snape's response to that rejection) is why Snape joined up with Voldy? That's missing sooooo much of the situation with Snape - feeling like a loner in general (NOT JUST from Lily), being Sorted into Slytherin and spending tons of time with hateful assholes, being indoctrinated, and of course being bullied by James - those were all factors. I think the root cause was desperation to feel like he belonged and indoctrination offering him that belonging.

[personal profile] solticisekf 2016-01-28 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I think his father abused him, or was it just fanon *scratches head*

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Fanon. His father shouting at his mother is the only time we ever see evidence of Elder Snape doing anything, so a case of abuse could be made for his mother, but not for Snape himself. Weellll, arguably neglect, but both parents would probably be guilty of that as there's no indication of who is more "at fault".