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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-14 04:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #3329 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for anyone else but my problem with it is that that kind of critical viewpoint is wrong and dumb, and leads to really fucking same-y, boring movies.

It's a space adventure. Who gives a fuck about plotholes. Fuck outta here with that.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Why do you think that? Like, I can't see the logic in your comment.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Plot consistency is great and all, but it's very low on the checklist of "things that are needed in order to like a space adventure movie."

Like, sure, it would be great to have a space adventure movie without plotholes, but no one really cares that much about them. It's like having a pizza whose crust tastes good and can be eaten easily and doesn't need to be left in the box. It's great and impressive when you get one like that, definitely a plus, but if you don't get one like that, no1curr because it's not important to the pizza's enjoyability at all.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, crust is VERY important to good pizza. It's the second most important thing after the sauce. Let's be real.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
If you read the context they're obviously talking about crust as in the outside edge with no toppings, not the dough that forms the bottom of the pizza. Hence why 'stuffed crust' pizza does not have a layer of cheese under it and then more bread, but instead has filling in the outer edge e.g. the crust.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the same crust either way! If the bottom crust is good, so's the outside edge. Stuffed crust pizza is nonsense and I choose to ignore it. Crust matters.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-02-14 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
Edited 2016-02-14 22:26 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You have obviously never had bad pizza crust. The crust is a hell of a lot more important than you think. Why the duck do you think dominoes had that huge campaign to change their crust?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-02-14 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Er...I'd be really disappointed in a pizza that didn't have a crust I could eat.

I mean I love TFA, I just don't think this is a good analogy.
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[personal profile] ozaline 2016-02-15 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Again talking about the outer-crust which is often discarded cause it is not tasty, and is often hard and brittle and gross.



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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-02-15 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
There are so many good pizzas out there with good outer crust that if a pizza doesn't have an edible outer crust it's not a pizza I'm interested in buying. Also, as another commenter pointed out, a pizza's outer crust isn't actually different from its under-crust, just thicker and without toppings, so it is in fact related to the quality of the entire pizza, and if a pizza has a good under-crust it's probably going to have a good outer crust too (unless it's Donato's which doesn't really have an outer crust at all, but makes up for it by having toppings on the whole thing so it's still delicious).
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[personal profile] ozaline 2016-02-16 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
It's the same bread, but the outer-crust usually gets burnt, and I guess the sauce keeps the bottom crust from hardening out???

I dunno outer crust is just usually not great (at least from the budget pizzas I often get).
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-02-16 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends on what you mean by "budget pizza" and where you get your pizza from.

My personal favorite for crust is Papa John's. It's fast food pizza but I'm not sure if it qualifies as "budget".

(Anonymous) 2016-02-15 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
+1000 and I'm loving your analogy. :)

(Anonymous) 2016-02-15 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Pizza with bad crust is bad pizza. This analogy doesn't support what you think it does.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a point of view that's overly concerned with the logic of plot holes, and realism, and hitting very specific plot beats over and over - that leads to very same-y, formulaic movies, and more importantly, it doesn't really have much to do with what I enjoy about movies. If you have a plot hole, but it allows you to move the story along more quickly and have some really great set piece or something, I think that's a fine trade-off.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
IMO if you notice plot holes it's because you're analyzing attentively the plot. Unless you're a genius, this should not happen because you're supposed to be emotionally engaged to the characters to think too hard about the why.


If everyone talks about plot holes, the movie failed, so there are things wrong with it outside of the plot.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
So a generous way of reading the fact that no one wants to talk about the plot holes is that the movie succeeded. And while it sucks that it didn't work for people, they should suck it up and accept that instead of expecting anyone who did enjoy the movie to give a fuck about plot holes.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-15 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for anyone else but my problem with it is that that kind of critical viewpoint is wrong and dumb, and leads to really fucking same-y, boring movies.

Is anyone else boggling a little at the claim that TFA isn't "really fucking same-y"? I mean, probably the biggest disappointment I had while watching it is that it felt to me like an insufficiently transformed remix of A New Hope. I was utterly bored by every minute of the Death Star 3.0 subplot.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-15 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually think it was pretty refreshing in that it dared to be "oldschool" in the pirates of the Caribbean 2-way while still being casually contemporary without being as on the nose about it as movies lately tend to be.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-16 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Pirates of the Caribbean 2, what?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-19 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't "oldschool" it was completely derivative.