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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-21 05:13 pm

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Wank/Controvesial Topics Thread

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
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A student was expelled for rape even though both parties say it was consensual

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
But somebody saw a hickey the girl had and said it was rape.

Source: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29786112/csu-student-sues-college-sanctioning-him-what-he

Quotes: "Neal’s girlfriend texted him: ‘I’ve been running around all day talking to so many people, trying to make things right!!! One of the other Athletic Training students screwed me over! … She went behind my back and told my AT advisor stuff that wasn’t true!!! I’m trying so hard to fix it all. I want to tell you what’s going on. Please!"

""Our stories are the same and he's a good guy," Jane Doe was quoted in the lawsuit as telling a school official. "He's not a rapist, he's not a criminal, it's not even worth any of this hoopla!""

Re: A student was expelled for rape even though both parties say it was consensual

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I fucking swear if someone spread it around the my boyfriend raped me and got him in trouble just to mess with us I would have no shame in clocking her/him a good one. Fuck, that shit ruins lives.

Re: A student was expelled for rape even though both parties say it was consensual

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Well it *could have happened!*

Except it didn't. Evidently it has now become manditory to have a lobotomy before accepting employment in our nation's universities. (As if the last few months have left much doubt.)
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Re: A student was expelled for rape even though both parties say it was consensual

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-04-21 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
So wait a minute, in ACTUAL cases of on-campus rape the rapist isn't punished and the victim is usually blamed if not outright punished herself, but someone pulls some petty high school bullshit and it's actually taken seriously?

Fuck is this backwards ass baby bullshit?

Re: A student was expelled for rape even though both parties say it was consensual

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
that's so bizarre. at most colleges, athletes can fucking gangrape women and the college won't do shit, but apparently consensual sex is crossing a line?
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Re: A student was expelled for rape even though both parties say it was consensual

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-04-22 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
wow wtf.

Is there any chance the girl who "reported" it could get in trouble for making shit up? Or would that require expensive legal action? :/

Re: A student was expelled for rape even though both parties say it was consensual

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, and I thought that university officials couldn't get any dumber...

"Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one who doesn't... get that argument?

Not that I don't think there's tons of privileged, snooty douchebags out there who didn't work as hard as they said they did, or who don't understand that not everyone can just work their way up. But plenty of people HAVE overcome adversity. So it's not like it never happens.

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a stupid argument if someone is actually saying that literally every single person with money got that way from the start, yes

I'm skeptical that's the argument people are making. And the analogous structural/systemic argument has a lot of validity.
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Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-21 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but its overused and glorified as an example?

Yeah, some people do go from rags to richess. Some of them might indeed have worked hard, or had amazing business plans, or became famous etc.

But, it's more like a lottery (combined with hard work and being good at seeing opportunities).

But, maybe out of a 1000 people who all work equally hard, one will catch a big break. So yeah, it's possible, but it's also possible to work hard all of your life and just get by.

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Given is super easy to go from riches to rags (see lottery multimillionaire winners for example and many, many children of well off parents who don't manage their kids' finances) it's downright stupid. Making money isn't easy. Keeping it is even harder.
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Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-04-22 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't true that EVERYONE who is rich got there from privilege and luck alone, but it gets trotted out as an excuse to spit on poor people - and also, the assertion that working hard is guaranteed to bring about financial success is simply not true. Especially if you're completely ethical.
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Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2016-04-22 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's no more true than "This person worked hard and became successful, so that means everyone who isn't successful isn't working hard enough!" Everyone should be encouraged to work to the best of their ability to increase their chances of success, but beyond that, good fortune doesn't really care about fairness or who deserves what.

Millennials

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
People who complain about millennials are annoying.

But at this point millennials who refuse to ignore the fact that some attributes and trends in their generation are really bad and terrible (and that some aspects of technology CAN be bad) are just as annoying.

I get it is because people ignore their bad aspects and such. And that their kids/grandkids will be the ones to bring up whatever shit the millennials did that was shitty.

But I can't wait that long. I saw this as someone who is straddling the line between Generation X/Millennial.

Re: Millennials

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
if they have kids lol

Re: Millennials

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm an "older Milennial" (31) and man, I agree. On one hand, I'm sick of the business world incriminating us without really trying to understand where we're coming from. On the other hand, we have flaws, and we should acknowledge them. We accuse baby boomers of looking at the world with a 1960's mindset when we expect the world to work the way it did in the 1990's. It doesn't.

Re: Millennials

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
What are the flaws, yeah

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(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really get all the generation stuff I've been seeing lately. I know there are trends in certain generations, but still. I try to judge people as individuals, not based on when they were born. Not everyone born in a certain decade is alike.
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Re: Millennials

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-21 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, you know what? In the end every generation complains bout the next, and the next generation will always have some things that are better, some things that are worse, and some things that are simply different.

I feel like our predecessors sort of fucked up or world in terms of pollution, resources drain, economy, politics - and things do need to change. And all change is difficult.

I do have high hopes for my generation and the next. We won't be perfect, we'll have our flaws, but we can't afford a status quo, either.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2016-04-22 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
There's a line between Generation X and Millenial? I thought there was another generation in between those two.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-04-22 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
What would be the actual purpose of doing that for me? Every person in my generation has flaws but they're certinly not all going to be the same. And the criticism of boomers is rooted in responding to hypocrisy and the fact that choices many of them made informed the millenial decision, not criticism for its own sake. I wouldn't say to an individul boomer "YOU did this" unless I know for a fact that they personally did, and I am not going to bring it up at all unless that boomer is on my case for my situation.

Re: Millennials

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Millennials' kids are going to be greedy, self-serving, alt-right punk nazis.

And I am going to laugh at them so hard when they whine about it.

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Asexuals dating non-asexuals

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Inspired by a few posts I've seen here and there:
If a sex-repulsed asexual is dating a non-asexual (I forget the term), is it reasonable for them to say, "I hate having sex, but you can't have sex with anyone else"?

On one hand, I don't think anyone's entitled to sex; but if the non-asexual parter wants sex and their only options are a) sex with someone who hates sex, or b) infidelity, I think that's a bit unreasonable?

Re: Asexuals dating non-asexuals

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, it's not like there isn't a third option: end the relationship so both parties can be with someone who fulfills their needs. It's reasonable to not want to have sex if you hate having it and it's reasonable to not want to be cheated on, but it seems illogical to expect someone to be in a sexless relationship if sex is an important part of a relationship for them. It seems like it would eventually just cause resentment. I don't enjoy enjoy sex and I would never be with a partner who considers sex to be integral to a relationship because I would feel too guilty. I would much rather want to be with someone who shared my lack of desire for sex because then I would at least know that we're both happy (or if we're unhappy then at least it wouldn't be because of sex)

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