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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-12 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #3448 ]


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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe we've all been telling you regressives it's alive and well in the Middle East.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
And travelling on the wave of migrants to Europe and the US.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup.

Watch them all bury their heads, though.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. We're idiots to keep letting them come.

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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-12 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Except this guy wasn't a migrant or an immigrant?

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Hush, don't you know? All non-white and/or non-Christian people in the US are immigrants.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Shut up, Donald.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
If by that you mean you've been masturbating furiously to the fact that you can now compound your own homophobia with racism and isolationism, sure.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The Middle East hardly has a monopoly on regressive hatred.

Shit, a lot of the Republican politicians expressing hopes and prayers shared a platform in the last year with preachers who think that homosexuals should face the death penalty. And it's not as though this country hasn't had problems in living memory with right-wing Christians using violence as a means to an end. One literally bombed the Olympics, although thank God only one person was killed, but not for lack of trying.

Fuck outta here if you're trying to say that this problem only exists for people from the Middle East or for Islam. That is racist and provably, factually wrong.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That is racist and provably, factually wrong.

In the US. Not so much in Western Europe.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
We are talking about the United States. Why in God's name would you think this is an appropriate place for the discussion of why Muslims are bad in Europe?

(I also disagree with the premise but that's besides the point)

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Bullshit.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
holy fuck you sound straight

don't mind me, I'm just a gay that experienced homophobia all the time in Western Europe, but what do I know
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-12 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Orlando is in the US, anon, not in Western Europe

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Racism has nothing to do with it. I hate Christianity and Islam equally.

But it seems like only one of the two is actually killing homosexuals...

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
People are killing other people they hate for all kinds of reasons. Dylan Roof didn't kill those people because of Islam. Elliot Rogers didn't kill those people because of Islam. Adam Lanza didn't kill all those kids because of Islam. And there's no indication that the guy driving to Los Angeles Pride was doing so because of Islam.

There are two problems here. One is homophobia. One is mass shootings. Neither is unique to Islam. And anti-Islamic bigotry and restrictions on immigration will solve neither.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey darling, maybe look up Scott Lively and the Uganda Anti-Homosexuality bill some time. :D
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-06-12 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
But it seems like only one of the two is actually killing homosexuals...

That's because Christians are too busy killing abortion providers.
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-12 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
In the US, yeah. Both are guilty of it in other parts of the world.

(Not that it's a good reason to blanket hate an entire religion)
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Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-06-12 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Xians might not be *physically killing* LGBT people, but their rhetoric and ranting and endless string of anti-LGBT legislation (and their approval of hate) has definitely led some people to think it's perfectly okay to harass, bully and/or attack and/or kill LGBT people in the US.

So, to me, they're equally to blame.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Except with all the "therapies" and "Camps" the christians have set up.

Muslims may be killing us, but christians are torturing us. I know which evil I consider the lesser.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
DA. And if you are trying to say that there are no differences between countries where being gay is punishable by jail or death and countries where gay relationships and/or marriages are legal, you are delusional.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
But they actually believe this. They actually believe we have as much of a problem with homophobia in the West as they do in the Middle East.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Middle Eastern countries are generally much worse in terms of rights for gay people, yes.

Looking at this shooting in that light, and attempting to solve it solely through that angle, is bigoted, factually wrong and actively harmful.

Re: We've officially had the worst shooting in US history

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that the Supreme Court finally ruled anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional a little over a decade ago is nothing to crow about. Especially since a number of states still have such laws on the books.