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Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[(Anonymous)]

I admit I used PokeVision, but I also respect and even applaud Niantic's stance against them. It was cheating, everyone knew that. Yeah, I wish tracking was fixed, but honestly? It's a FREE APP. It's okay that it's buggy and laggy as they figure their shit out. The game is still enormously playable. It hardly crashes anymore. I haven't had a "Servers are down" error in weeks. It's okay to not race to get all the Pokemon, and instead just check the game periodically.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[sarillia]

I heard there's a planned DDOS attack tomorrow, so the servers may be down again if they haven't found a way to prevent it since last time.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[diet_poison]

I heard this too, from a friend who saw it on Reddit. Where did you see it? I wonder if it's confirmed anywhere or just a rumor.

At least tomorrow I won't really be able to play the game, but Tues-Fri I play more because of where I work. And I heard the DDOS was going to last until the end of the week but I'm not sure.

(It's a stupid response if it is true. What the hell are they hoping to accomplish except ruin something for everyone else out of spite?)

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[sarillia]

I got it from a friend of mine. I don't know where he got it from but he named the specific group that was planning it so it sounded like more than a rumor. I don't remember the name though.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[meredith44]

I still have the servers go down frequently. Friday after work as I tried to play, and yesterday afternoon. I understand why, but it is still annoying.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[(Anonymous)]

It's really not cheating, though. It doesn't make Pokémon appear or make them easier to catch/catch them for you. It just shows you where they are - you still have to go to the site, walk around until they pop up, and then try to catch them. There's no guarantee that you'll be able to catch them at all.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[(Anonymous)]

It's cheating because it's part of the game to find them yourself. Knowing where they are defeats like half the point of the game.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[(Anonymous)]

If that's cheating, then having someone else tell you where a Pokémon is also counts as cheating, yet that happens in meatspace all the time. Hell, just the other day I was walking around looking for a Meowth and some guys pointed me in the right direction. So is that also cheating since I didn't find it myself?

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[otakugal15]

Lol, seriously, this.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[otakugal15]

LOL. Let's see, when I have friends who have visited certain areas of the city and have literally TOLD ME that that is where certain pokemon spawn all the time (and this was before we even knew about PokeVision), wouldn't that be considered cheating, according to this ridiculous logic?

In fact, there's one park in particular, next to our zoo, that spawns the most Charmander. I was TOLD that by a fellow coworker.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[caerbannog]

I ran to the other side of the block because my coworker told me there was a grimer. Would have done the same thing with the map.

If I don't have a specific area to check I'm not going. I'm over walking around in an ever increasing circle for a "nearby Pokemon" and getting nothing but bats. I just won't go.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[diet_poison]

This. That is not fun. Exercise is good, but walking around aimlessly (especially by yourself) =/= fun.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[diet_poison]

"Cheating"

how exactly is it cheating? Every player who has access to the app also has access to Pokevision. And Niantic won't make any money off shutting it down, because it's not like there are in-game purchases that help you find Pokemon better. This is gonna bite Niantic in the ass because fewer people will want to play at all now. Nobody's gonna spend money on extra Pokeballs if they can't even find any fucking Pokemon to catch.

I don't see why it's a problem for fans to create something that enhances gameplay experience for players.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[(Anonymous)]

It's cheating the game, because finding Pokemon on your own is meant to be part of the game.

You aren't competing against everyone else. You're independently playing the game. It doesn't matter if everyone else can access PokeVision, it's cheating.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[diet_poison]

You aren't competing against everyone else.

Yes...you are? There are teams and gyms?

And "cheating" is an entirely meaningless concept unless you're talking about giving one or more people an undue advantage in a competition. If the game worked the way you claim it does - as a completely independent game with no interaction - then your claim that it's cheating would make even less sense.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[sarillia]

I don't agree that it was cheating but I do think it's possible to cheat on a personal challenge, so I think they're making sense even if I don't agree with them.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[diet_poison]

I mean sure it's possible to cheat on a personal challenge, but I don't think PokeGo is a personal challenge. (Not sure if you are trying to make that specific claim or not, sorry!)

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[sarillia]

I was just disagreeing with this particular sentence of yours: "And 'cheating' is an entirely meaningless concept unless you're talking about giving one or more people an undue advantage in a competition."

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[diet_poison]

Ok, that is fair, you're right.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[otakugal15]

Then how do you feel about people tell their friends of the best places to find certain pokemon in their home town? And this is BEFORE they knew about PokeVision, mind.

Would that considered "cheating?"

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's cheating because in the regular Pokemon games, NPCs would tell you where to find stuff all the time.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[otakugal15]

Exactly.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[(Anonymous)]

The teams and gyms affect your gameplay... how?

And no, it isn't meaningless. Niantic is selling things like Incense and Lure Modules for real money, things people theoretically use to help them go catch Pokemon. By knowing exactly where the Pokemon are, you are not only reducing the need for these items, you are not playing the game as it is intended.

I don't see how you can even argue with a straight face that it isn't cheating. If I use hacking codes to make certain Pokemon appear when I play the Game Boy Pokemon games, that's cheating- without any sense of competition. You're talking about a very similar concept - the ability to get to Pokemon without having to find them yourself, when walking around finding Pokemon is LITERALLY the concept behind the game.

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[diet_poison]

The teams and gyms affect your gameplay... how?

Not sure what you even mean by this question?? They are part of the gameplay, just as much as walking around and finding Pokemon, and evolving them, and all the other aspects. To some people they are the main reason they play!

(It occurs to me some context is missing here. This is a tangent to the "cheating" aspect of the thread; it's me pointing out that PokeGo has a competitive aspect as well as a personal aspect.)

Incense and Lure Modules just cause more Pokemon to exist than previously existed. People have still been using them. Not gonna change the fact that there's a Pikachu or something else rare on their radar that they can't find.

"Cheats" refer to hacks or codes you an put into a game to get a result outside the normal parameters, but I really do not think it's "cheating" in the moral sense of the word when someone does something like that in a handheld Pokemon game. If that's the way they want to play, it's on them. (Note: I'm not talking about people who use hacks to get better competitive Pokemon. That's definitely cheating.)

Re: Niantic shut down pokemon hunting sites

[(Anonymous)]

This. Someone who uses a Pokemon tracking site doesn't have any advantage over someone who stumbles across a Pokemon when it comes to actually catching it. They have the same chance of having the Pokemon break out and escape. I used Pokevision to track down three Pokemon the other day and I only caught one of them because the other two broke out and ran away. I really don't see how that's "cheating" in any sense of the word.