[ SECRET POST #456 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #456 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 18 pages, 439 secrets from Secret Submission Post #066.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

44. Yeah, webcomics suck so much they'd never get turned into a cartoon series and shown on TV. Oh wait-!

Re: 44

[(Anonymous)]

I'm blanking horribly here, which one are you referring to?

[callmejude.livejournal.com]

1. I freaking love that game.

26. I still say you're right. XD

43. NDSSG, iCarly, Drake and Josh, Suite Life, That's So Raven, Life with Derek, Hannah Montana...I watch and ship them all. Yeah, I'm "too old for it," but I honestly don't care. Disney and Nick have cute shows, and they make me giggle. There's nothing wrong with having an interest in kid shows.

44. Wow. That's just sad. ...And I hate to sound like such a nerd, but there's no possible way you can know that "all" webcomics suck. You have not read all of them. There is no way. I hate when people over-generalize. What makes you think everybody wants a major profit for their hobby?

56. I know what you mean, I think. I mean, the idea of House connecting with anyone but Wilson seems a bit ridiculous - and even then, the prospect of House being in a romantic relationship at all seems odd. Still, if he were to be with anyone, it should be Wilson. And I don't care how fangirly that makes me sound. XD

N!S 1: Signed so hard.

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[silvius-holmes.livejournal.com]

56

I agree (Though I must admit I don't hate Cameron).

That's really how I feel too though.

[plazmah.livejournal.com]

1. OMFG I LOVE THAT GAME. I was playing it this afternoon too!

9. But that pic is HILARIOUS. ;P

32. Haaaaa! It's true.

34. I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE.

[unleashedfreak.livejournal.com]

54. That's nothing compared to Metis the Muppet in either that page or the previous. Or something. And I like the comic too.

68. I like 'em both. I didn't until I got into the series itself, and fell in love with both of them. Plus there's a clip floating around YouTube of them doing stand-up when they were younger, and Julian looks incredibly hot in it.

#59

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

There are a variety of things. Much of it leads back to insecurity, regardless of age, the preconception that men are, by default, more interesting than women, and the fact that, whether we realize it or not, most women are taught to view other women as competition. We're also taught that female characters have to "prove" themselves, and should be viewed in the context of their men.

Most slash is extremely gender typecast, and pure fantasy, both canon and fanon. The males are cast into very specific male/female roles(you'll note that most slashers are EXTREMELY specific about the seme/uke roles), but by changing the actual GENDER of one character, you still have the typical romantic fantasy, without having to actually deal with the presence of a female.

I'm not interested in slash myself(I'm pretty canon centric and usually gen first, and if something DOES strike my fancy, it's usually het)...most of it bores me, and if I'm going to read typical male/female alpha/beta romance stuff, which most slash is, I might as well just read about a male and a female in the first place. I've been trying to figure it out myself since my first fandom, though, and as near as I can tell, it just boils down to a way to avoid something(female characters, het romance, female power and control, etc.) that you aren't comfortable with, for one reason or another. Most of it isn't deliberate, but it is there.

There are people who like both slash and het, and slashers who genuinely like female characters as much as male, and many who are responding to actual coding, but with no intention of denying the canon het(the coding, though, gets used as an excuse a lot more than it's actually there) but in my experience, they're the minority of slash fans, not the majority.

Re: #59

[(Anonymous)]

On the one hand, I do agree with your first paragraph. However, I don't think any of those things are wrong. I don't self-identify as female(I prefer to think of myself as genderless) and find it very hard to identify with female characters unless they have taken on the mannerisms or appearance of men, so I'm probably not the best person to talk to about that.

Your second paragraph, though, is at best an enormous generalization of slash fans and what the prefer. Seme/uke roles, such as they are, are generally prevalent in anime fandom far more than other fandoms, and are not followed by most good writers. There may also be people out there who are interested in exploring the various degrees of masculinity/femininity that men can or cannot express, but I will agree that at times people shoehorn characters into a role.(Admittedly I maintain that those roles are not actually the molding of a homosexual relationship into a pseudo-heterosexual one, but instead represent a relationship with a great power imbalance, which is expressed via the appearance and behavior of the characters.)

Most slash is not "typical male/female alpha/beta romance stuff", as you put it. There has been a great trend toward "men who act like men" and other such things. Overall, with good writers character integrity is more important than anything else. Therefore, instances where the characters are described in this supposed male/female binary are the result of bad writing, unless the original characters act in such ways.

There are other things I could say, but in all honesty I cannot continue without coming off as highly condescending or mocking. In short: Please do more research before commenting on a particular subset of people.

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[spaleween.livejournal.com]

The reason they're into webcomics is because they can't afford to publish, and no company would print for them. It's easier to publish on the Internet, plus it has wider reach.

They're facing problems too, such as copyright infringement, but they still do it.

Re: 44

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, wha...? You seem to be referring to fanworks, not original stories. (How do you infringe on yourself?)

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[anogete.livejournal.com]

44 - :-( I feel sorry for you. You miss out on so much. I followed a wonderful, complex, and well thought-out science fiction webcomic. It lives up there on the top of my list ofs back so I could fangirl over it. I don't think anyone on my flist gets my comics because the artwork and storyline were superb. I'd give you a link, but you seem like you'd rather wall yourself up into that itty bitty box where you feel safe. Shall I also put the lid on that box so the nasties can't get you?

62 - OMG - WORD. Just thinking about Skinner gets me hot and bothered. A few months ago I posted a screen cap of hi obsession.

[kittengrl4226.livejournal.com]

06. When I saw that red mark at the bottom, I thought it was Pedobear for a second. D:
20. I like the picture you used. There are a lot of people like this on Deviantart. Hahahaha.
24. The guy on the far right is probably the girliest boy I've ever seen. He sort of reminds me of Rika from Higurashi. D:
38. I haven't watched this anime yet but I think she's so cute! But Fumika is cuter. Soooo cuuute >A<
51. I act like Ratio, too. (lol you're probably pissed off at all the comments about your secret because you misspelled Raito) Don't be embarassed or mad! You brought smiles to some people today.

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[miamanaged.livejournal.com]

Joooooooooooin. :D ♥

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[selarne]

01. OH GOD, AOE2. I LOVED THAT GAME! (EVEN THOUGH I FAILED HORRIBLY UNLESS I USED MARCO POLO.)

*tears apart room looking for CD*

[penguinfaery.livejournal.com]

26- Actually that couple opened me up to the fact that once you get past the "OMG she's so cool and cutting edge and cool!" Tonk's is a moopy selfish brat.

31- Dude, there's TONS of popular series where the characters look "normal" I don't know either series well, so I can't judge if ones better then the other, but that's obviously not why.

44- Wow, you're a flaming idiot who knows NOTHING about the publishing world.

The logic is such fail I can't even wrap my mind around it. And I don't even LIKE any webcomics that much.

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[kanthia.livejournal.com]

C-C-C-COMBO!

[klytaemnestra.livejournal.com]

1. You know, whatever works. At least you know your history which is more than can be said of some. We all have our own ways of becoming interested in it.

[atoli.livejournal.com]

45. I enjoy both equally, and think both have its ups and downs. Am I a freak :[

[repeatvoffender.livejournal.com]

Yes, clearly. Don't you know you're not allowed to enjoy both - especially equally of all things? What's wrong with you?

If I agree, and will actually argue that point to anyone actually willing to listen- what does that make me?

[fallenangels607.livejournal.com]

32. Same here! If it ever happens (highly unlikely -- those fangirls forgive all of his mistakes), it will be amazing.

46. Honestly? Yeah, right.

[kyrakitty.livejournal.com]

44. Good lord, you're an idiot.

Too Big #2

[oceanica.livejournal.com]

Gee, bisexual much?

[tulleskirt.livejournal.com]

11. Ha, I do that sometimes.
14. Damn straight! I'm more of a Hamilton girl, though.
28. Dude, it's Spike. Who wouldn't hit that shit?
35. I have no idea who that is, but good for you. :)
44. Cutie troll, my icon is just 4 u. ♥
59/60. Two in a row!

[lovegonnadrown.livejournal.com]

44.) FUCK YOU! <3

Also, publishing costs money. And sometimes people are actually in it for the art and not the cash, and they want their work to reach a wide audience,so they put it on the internet.

So, yeah. Idiotic generalization is idiotic.

61.) GODDAMNIT WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP ADD EXTRA T'S TO HOT.

IT IS NEITHER CUTE NOR FUNNY. IT'S FUCKING RETARDED DJGHGAKJHGAFH.

[lovegonnadrown.livejournal.com]

pretend "keep add" is "keep adding".

Yeah I suck.

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[thestateiamin.livejournal.com]

01. This secret makes me want to bust the game out again now but I don't know where it is :(

09. This secret made me lol. I agree, it's really creepy.

[kyaa.livejournal.com]

5. Yes.

22. Me too :/

31. ...I don't think the style below reflects "normal humans" either, sorry.

33. lololol. Sure, okay.

42. KHR is pure rubbish, but I freaking love the fandom. Just try to keep up with plot developments through the communities! It's what I do!

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[techiegoat.livejournal.com]

I love Bokurano!!! And I still haven't seen Gurren Lagaan (or however you spell it).

Anyone know where I can find the Bokurano manga translated? I heard it differed from the anime.

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[nuclearpez.livejournal.com]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bokurano/

Voila~

[(Anonymous)]

#4: I hear you. That reminds me of something I once saw... There was a thread where this person asked: "how can i make digimon kaiser cosplay for next year also aelita from code lyoko"

Honestly, does she expect someone to give her a detailed tutorial? o_O

#20: Not only in fandom. Ever tried to live with someone that has the mentality of a 5 year old? DX It can drive someone insane.

#4 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yea, I just kinda shake my head some days. "HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS?" "I...uh...sewed it?"

[voicing.livejournal.com]

43. WORD, WORD AND WORD. Could the whole Ned/Moze subplot have been any more predictable?

[(Anonymous)]

16 and 26: Damn tinhats.