[ SECRET POST #3539 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3539 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/9XRnipx.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I dislike how both the Avengers films seem to be jammed up Tony's ass. Might as well rename them "Tony and Friends: The Movie". Joss Whedon is a pleb.

[(Anonymous)]

I highly doubt Joss Whedon is making the call over which characters to feature more than the others. Disney/Marvel knows that Iron Man is the most popular character and are going to feature him more.

[kallanda_lee]

Whedon definitely did put his foot down on some things in AOU, from what I've heard. He's also vocal about which characters he (dis)likes.

[brandiweed.livejournal.com]

I wonder sometimes if the studios are trying to get as much out of Robert Downey Jr. as they can before he either starts requesting too much salary or decides he's not up to the physical demands of the role...

[(Anonymous)]

I think he's been fairly vocal about the fact he doesn't want Marvel to own his soul forever.

[(Anonymous)]

I am very much not a huge Tony fan, but I actually liked The Avengers a lot. Natasha's fantastic in it, Fury and Hill have solid supporting roles, Loki's an entertaining villain, Pepper's cameos are charming, Steve's characterization is...uneven but broadly enjoyable, and I've never cared as much about Bruce before or since. The plot mostly makes sense and doesn't have too many extraneous threads, and the action scenes are exciting.

I mean, it's no Winter Soldier, but at this point I'm pretty sure TWS is actually the pinnacle of superhero film excellence and nothing will ever surpass it. (Captain Marvel and Black Panther folks? Please feel very free to prove me wrong.)

[(Anonymous)]

Polemic, dude, but let's be real I LOVE IT.

[diet_poison]

I think I mostly love The Avengers so much because it was the first MCU movie I saw.

[(Anonymous)]

Cap 3 disappointed me *because* it was so Avengery. If Tony and his requisite neuroses hadn't been in it, we might've gotten an actual conversation between Steve and Bucky. I'm really not into these huge cast movies - they just jump from character to character with no time to get enough from any of them. It always ends up leaving me cold.

[analise]

Yeah, this is how I felt.

Like, I don't mind Iron Man. Tony can be interesting.

But!

I wanted to see a Captain America movie. And I didn't really get that. We got a "Captain America is here a lot and there's a problem with Bucky but mostly we're going to focus on Tony and his issues and put in the other Avengers except Thor and Banner to fill in the background shots. Also random Spiderman!" (yes, I get that apparently Peter had a big role to play in the original Civil War, doesn't mean I think his appearance in the movie actually makes a lot of sense except for the movie-runners wanting to shoehorn him in so they can make Yet Another Spiderman Movie.

Wow.

I have more feels on the subject than I realized.

[tabaqui]

Same, same, same.

[(Anonymous)]

I get that apparently Peter had a big role to play in the original Civil War

It's been a few years since I read the Civil War arc, but I don't remember his role being that important tbh unless I'm severely misremembering the whole thing. The only really important thing I remember happening with his character is that he willingly admitted that Peter Parker was his civilian identity at the urging of Tony and then realized how fucking stupid the whole thing was and switched to Steve's side. But even then, that only really became important after Civil War because the reveal of his identity led to Aunt May being mortally wounded by one of Peter's enemies in One More Day storyline

Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I agree with you and considering that the comic storyline for Civil War would have probably been fine without spider-man, then I think the movie definitely didn't need him.

[nightscale]

Yuuuuuuup.

I am 100% disinterested in MCU Spider-Man as it currently stands because he was so god damn shoehorned into the movie, and sure he wasn't the only one but the others had at least appeared in-universe prior to this point and T'Challa who was also new actually had a relevant plot reason.

I just... Really dont know if I liked it tbh because I wanted my third Cap movie and I did not get that.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree so much. I walked out of the theater thinking, "Wow, Iron Man 4 sure had a lot of Steve in it!" UGH.

[(Anonymous)]

Buck? Is that you?

[tabaqui]

Me, too. Don't get me wrong, I *love* the Avengers, and Tony, too. But i really wanted a *Cap* movie, that focused on Cap and Bucky and working all that mess out. Not the ridiculous CW plotline that was just...stupid and pointless, to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Originally, I wasn't sold on Cap. He was pretty bland to me, and I didn't like the first Captain America movie. But then I saw WS, and Bucky aside, he was pretty damn awesome in it. Loved it.

So I was excited for CW. I still really enjoyed it, but some of my family found the plot hard to follow (I'd heard vague descriptions of the comics.) Specifically with he signing of the papers and all that jazz.

I was also looking forward to the Bucky, Steve vs Tony beat down. Not because I hate Tony, but because of the delicious angst.

[kallanda_lee]

I liked Cap 3 as a film, but I'd have loved a smaller cast. M ideal movie would have just focused in Steve, Bucky, Nat and Sam.

[tabaqui]

YES, that would be delightful. Though i'd really miss Clint.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. But at the same time people are always asking, where are the rest of the avengers? When its a solo movie.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

Also, I think there's a way to make the CA:CW plot and characterizations make sense, but it would require 1) at least 20 more minutes of the Avengers using their words to defend their respective positions than we actually got, and 2) not having Tony drag a teenage boy into a superhero fight when the thing that kicked off his whole guilt spiral was...him getting a teenage(? young twenties?) boy killed.

[nightscale]

Cap 3 was an Avengers movie to me and I'm still bitter and disappointed about that. I wanted more focus on the Cap crew which didn't happen, but if it had been sold as an Avengers movie I would have been more okay with it.

I still like the first Avengers movie though but I think it's because it was the first attempt at having that many big characters in a movie and it surprisingly worked, AoU to me was just more of the same so the shine of that concept had worn off.

[(Anonymous)]

Same here. It didn't help that I came out of CACW actively disliking Tony.

[(Anonymous)]

The main story of Cap 3 should have been Avengers 3. They easily had enough for two movies with the Bucky plotline and the Sokovia Accords plotline, and it would've pleased both the people who were annoyed at getting Avengers in their Cap, and the people who were annoyed at having to see a Captain America movie to get a major Avengers update.