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⌈ Secret Post #3666 ⌋

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[fscom]

03. http://i.imgur.com/FXqI8jg.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. But if you mention anything of the sorts you're suddenly some lame nerd or uptight person who needs to smoke a joint or something.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, but what is your non-uptight reason to actively hate it showing up in fics

[kaijinscendre]

To be fair, it is hard to show characters doing drugs on screen for certain channels or time slots. And a lot of those are characters I could certainly see smoking pot. It isn't like pot is that hard to get and many people consider it on par (or better) than alcohol.

For harder drugs, I can see it being a problem. But generally in fic if a character is doing meth/cocaine/heroin, the drug use is part of the plot in some way.

[(Anonymous)]

One time I read a fic, and I think the author was under the impression that pot was a horrible drug and it involved the character having to go through an intervention bc he smoked weed occasionally. It was the funniest thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Doesn't bother me most of the time. I feel like authors usually do this when it involves fandoms where characters are trying to save the world from peril and they put them in a normal world AU. If they don't have to be in great shape to defeat some enemy, then I can totally buy some characters chilling and smoking weed. It really depends on the personality too.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this depends a lot on what the subject matter is, and what kind of "drug use" we're talking about. If it's something that's aimed at a younger audience or that's limited by TV/movie rules in what it can make explicit (Harry Potter and Supernatural come to mind right off), then having characters smoke weed, for instance, makes perfect sense: it's a thing quite a lot of very normal folks do, especially young folks, and because of the necessary filters on canon it's perfectly reasonable to assume it's something that the characters might have been doing without it being brought up onscreen. I could see it being really obnoxious if it's done to be ~edgy or really overdone, but as a minor thing I think it's fine.

If we're talking about characters doing heroin who never did heroin in canon, that's quite another matter.

[kaijinscendre]

Supernatural is what I was thinking of! There is no way that Dean and Sam have never used pot to relax after a hard day.

[(Anonymous)]

I get frustrated with the way it's handled sometimes. Like how people just assume *everyone* does pot and it's so regular and everyday. No, not everyone does. Not everyone smokes cigarettes or drinks alcohol either. It's just thrown in there for no reason a lot of the time too.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, most people /do/ drink. If an author has an adult character bring up that they don't drink when they seem like they would, then I find that offputting, honestly.

[(Anonymous)]

This is the way I feel about it. It just isn't an everyday thing for everyone. It isn't even an occasional thing for everyone. It still seems very much a young people's thing to me. I only know one person over the age of thirty who smokes weed, everyone else I know hasn't even seen the stuff since they were maybe twenty IF they ever even used it all.

[(Anonymous)]

Around 10% of the US population smoke pot as surveyed in 2015. I expect that number will be going WAY up soon.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, pot is still illegal in a heck of a lot of places, which can influence people's decisions whether or not to do it. I have nothing against pot personally, but since it's still against the law where I live, hell no I'm not gonna touch it if offered.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. If I see anything of the sort in the tags, it's my cue to exit. It's only because of OOC reasons, not cos I'm like, a facist, man. (Down with Thatcher!)

[(Anonymous)]

I'd feel the same way, but maybe that's because the whole casual attitude about pot these days still feels weird to me. I've never tried it, never plan to for personal reasons. I don't mind if other people do it, but I've come to dislike the culture that's sprung up around it where people go out of their way to act like it's something everybody does.

[(Anonymous)]

Drug use is not drug "abuse," and I hope very much that you will never have a mental illness or physical disability like me and so many of us, who take the marijuana you depict there to alleviate our anxiety and pain --

LEGALLY as per many states in the US and countries around the world, which I don't even think matters because it's just the luck of your location -- a completely arbitrary standard that shouldn't determine who suffers and who doesn't.

[ketita]

I tend to not like it either. Heck, I don't even like characters who don't smoke in canon smoking cigarettes. Maybe just because I find it so unappealing irl.

[(Anonymous)]

To be frank, mentioning it doesn't seem any different from any other non-canonical thing that people bring into fanfiction. This happens all the damn time and I don't see how it's any different here for Chrissake.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. As soon as people start smoking pot in fic out of the fucking nowhere, I'm out. Doubly so if it's portrayed as this cutesy chill habit that's so normal and great, wheee. (Admittedly, I have some personal hangups about weed so it's worst with that.)

[ninety6tears]

I wish there were more specific examples of characters who have smoked weed in fics so that I could agree or disagree about whether these are IC.

I was about to wonder if anyone might have had this problem with one of my old Galactica fics, but then I remembered that New Caprican leaf is canon.

[(Anonymous)]

I tend not to mind when it's an AU or with a character I can actually see smoking pot (where it's not OOC.)

But, the other day I read Batman smoking a joint and it completely threw me out of the fic.

(maybe if it was set in Bruce's younger days and not while he's working with the Justice League?)

It sometimes bothers me.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never had any pot in my life and I probably won't ever try it recreationally, though I am for legalizing it. I don't like the assumption that shows up a lot that everyone tries it or that everyone who tries it, likes it. I do think there are a fair amount of characters that would try it, but there are a lot of jobs out there that would do random drug tests, which never seems to be a concern. There's the fact that most of the time it is smoked and, wow, weed smells awful and very distinctive (hell, it smells awful unsmoked), which doesn't really seem to come up either. I will admit, it usually seems much more plausible if the characters are teens or in college.

[meridian_rose]

I see a lot more of the reverse in fics lately, with characters who drink and maybe *horror* do drugs being taken in hand by a sexual partner. They now have to be sober at all times, eat whatever the author deems healthy, go to bed at author-reasoned sensible time every night, and in return get to have buttsex several times a week as the One True Allowable Adult Pleasure.
I think these authors are missing the point of the character and imposing their own puritanical beliefs onto wildcard characters in order to domesticate them into "suitable" partners for themselves rather than the other character. (The worst one was where the wildcard character became a docile submissive while being a rockstar. It was awful and not the only fic where the author did the same thing. Sex good, everything else bad and wrong. Drugs are bad, m'kay and alcohol is devil's piss or some bollocks)

[arcadiaego]

Depends what sort of drugs. It's pretty common for people to use pot for example, to the extent that it's not really a character trait much any more than having a drink in the pub is.

[(Anonymous)]

If the drug in question is pot, then I'm of two minds on the matter. On the one hand, I can understand why a lot of people feel like it's perfectly realistic to have a character smoke a joint without it being a big deal in the least. Because for many people, it really isn't a big deal in the least. I mean, probably at least three quarters of the people I know, beyond the point of being acquaintances, smoke pot at least semi-regularly. Personally, I hate how it makes me feel, so I don't partake, but I'm very used to there being pot around.

But on the other hand, I do feel like casual marijuana use is a lot more in character for some characters than for others. For example, despite BBC Sherlock's use of drugs, I can't imagine him recreationally using pot. It just seems like the polar opposite of the kind of high he's be into. OTOH, a character like Tony Stark (especially around the time of the first couple of Iron Man movies) would totally have a casual toke or two under the right circumstances.

Dean and Sam? I can totally see them smoking it sometimes - at least in the first couple of seasons. Though I tend to see them turning to alcohol a lot more, because it deadens pain - where pot is more of a relaxant, and as things get darker and darker for them I don't see them as feeling like they can let themselves relax.

Mulder and Scully? Probably not, because of the possibility they could lose their jobs. But if they were going to, I think Mulder would be more likely to have a toke than Scully would be. But I could actually see mid-series Scully at some zany party thrown by TLG or something, being offered a joint, and nobody thinks for a second she'll want a toke, but she just takes a nice deep hit, cool as you please, and passes it on like it's nothing.