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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-04 04:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3685 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3685 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
What are antis complaining about this time? I don't browse Tumblr for this fandom. Someone pls tell me.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you really think antis are something other than an inevitable feature of Internet discourse

(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Based on the picture of Yuri P., I'm thinking two options:

1) Just generally anti-Yuri on Ice. Basically, the creator Kubo made a sort of homophobic tweet years ago and deleted it when someone in JPN fandom addressed her. Now people have flip-flopped from talking about how "revolutionary" YOI is to how it's "disgusting fujobait." Frankly, I think the issue is that it was a fun, silly show from the get-go (Kubo even said she wanted to outdo bishoujo shows in terms of fanservice), and people are taking things too seriously.

2) Yuri P. is almost 16, and Otabek, his new friend, is 18. There is a 2 year four month gap between them. I've seen people call the ship "pedophillia." It's ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have more details on what the questionable tweet said? I don't keep up with these things.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
do they think it's impossible for someone to change their views years later or something?

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
The first one I can understand but as for the secret being about only watching it for Yuri P. then it's probably because they have a problem with Victor abandoning a 15 year old kid and then pretended like it's no big deal because "tee hee I'm just a forgetful airhead".

I know Yuri P. fans also have a problem with Victuuri shippers depicting Yuuri and Victor as his dads because Victor's behavior giving him no right to cheer him on as if he coached him. Or they just find him more interesting and deserving of screentime than the Japanese Yuri.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
By years ago it was literally 2010, and she's since made several very pro-gay comments. People can actually change, believe it or not.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Anti ship tag? Anti user tag? Anti character tag? Details, details, what made you like things in the anti tag anyway? Did she do something to you? Or something that made you dislike her? Or just a diffeing opinion? I'm interested

(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Anti-fandom, period. I love Yuri P, but the fandom at large is delusional and the anti tag is the only place I find people talking about the anime it for what it is, and not as if it was God's gift to the queer community. (also, I never stopped liking my friend)

(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
How dare queer people find something a breath of fresh air.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Is it just anti-yoi tag then? I want to visit it purely because the fandom is obnoxious and I have a real problem with Victors character. It's a shame I had such high hopes for this anime after episode 7 but I don't think it lives up to the hype at all.

I'll only give it credit for having the courage to have a canon gay couple but the characterization leaves much to be desired. I still don't like that Victors motives were just meeting years ago while Yuuri was drunk because I was honestly expecting something with more depth or that he grew to love Yuuri after time spent with him, not ever since he was drunk and Yuuri doesn't even remember.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe she just doesn't have time for people who are salty enough to browse anti tags? Cause that's my take, even about things I don't like either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-02-05 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
you really can't imagine any other reason people might browse anti tags?

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[personal profile] dahli 2017-02-04 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
If you had your likes public, she might have. Though what are they talking about or what is the tag? I' curious?

(Anonymous) 2017-02-04 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the anti yoi tag. You'll find anything from your regular bile against the show and the fandom, to discussions on the (lacking) quality of the animation/writing/relationship portrayal, the troubling implications of that relationship portrayal, and how a lot of the fandom is clueless about where yoi came from and what has gone before it.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'd unfollow someone who was hanging out with antis. Not someone who was critical of my fandom, or just didn't like it, but hanging out with the "OMG pedophilia gay relationships must be so ~pure~ uwu" crowd, sure. Bye.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah...I've gotten to that point myself. I actually started on tumblr as an anti, but those tags are not about critical discussion at all now.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh damn, now I want to go surf the anti tag. :o YOI is one of those things I've been hesitating to watch just because everyone is like, 'YOU HAVE TO WATCH IT, IT'S SO REVOLUTIONARY' blah blah blah. So it makes me want to not want to watch it at all.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who's done that--avoided something because everyone says I should--I have to say you're probably missing out on something you really would have liked. I've gone back and watched shows I vehemently avoided because it was popular or I had friends who were rabid about them and pushed me to watch when I had no interest, and they've become some of my favorite fandoms.

If you don't want to seem like you've been pushed to it, then don't tell anyone you did, but don't avoid something just to piss someone off. That's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'm team Yuri P. and Victors wish washy ass can go straight to hell. I wish fandom would stop pretending it's cute to reduce Yuri P. to Victuuri's adoptive son when he already has a loving grandfather and after Victor ditched him like hot garbage just to chase dick and then have the audacity to brag about and cheer for Yuri P. as if his accomplishments were in any way thanks to him.

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How does it feel to deliberately misconstrue the narrative so badly lol.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
Lol the team only watched it for Yuri P people are the most obnoxious and whiny-ass people in the fandom, so I'd understand your friend.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
No the Victuuri fangirls are the most obnoxious part of the fandom and why everyone hates YOI fandom in general.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-05 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me guess, you're a VicYuu fangirl who only watched the show because oh my god they are so gay aksjskdhsdgfgdhj.

People who watched for Yurio at least give shit about the plot and the story and the skating.

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