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Or one that is formed by environment? Is there a situation where most people would behave in a morally dubious manor? You can always tell when I have no idea what I'm talking about when the words start to sound smarter-er.

I do think humans evolved to exhibit pro-social behaviors, yeah, since we are social animals and generally being good to your neighbor is good for the colony, so to speak. So I think most humans do have "goodness" as an innate quality. I think, generally, people don't like to hurt others or at least disinclined toward it, and feel distressed if they see someone getting hurt, and are compelled to help. I think humans innately feel positive about the idea of goodness.

But that isn't to say violent or "bad" behavior isn't innate, too. And these terms are really hard to define anyway, especially considering circumstantial issues or societal expectations. Still, I think humans are generally compelled to be helpful, to feel empathy and compassionate toward others, and uncomfortable with the suffering of others if they see it directly.

Do you also lose your ability to spell?

Always.

It varies from person to person and from circumstance to circumstance (and it's also complicated because you can talk about both principles and actions and they kind of work differently). That said - I don't think that most people are inherently vicious. I do think that most people are powerfully lazy and self-centered, and so most people very often fall away from acting as moral as they could be, as a result of that.

It depends on how you define goodness. Since morals are largely determined by society I'd lean towards saying goodness is learned.

I think people are mostly born not good or bad but neutral.

I think most people are inclined toward goodness, but goodness can be interpreted a billion different ways. Still, people like to feel righteous and like to be the hero. Unfortunately, sometimes that means screaming at a woman wearing a hijab, donated ten thousand dollars to the NRA, picketing abortion clinics, murdering your daughter for getting pregnant outside of marriage and shaming the family, torturing gay people... etc.
Sometimes horrible things are done just to be self-serving, or because you're a sadistic asshole. But still, lots of horrible things are done because people get righteously worked up about a cause and love to be morally outraged.

Environment. I think it's easier to be "good" if you're born in an environment where you never have to experience hunger or poverty or abuse. It's easier to be good if you've been raised in a family that teaches you empathy and how not to always choose a path of self-interest at the expense of others. It's also easier to be good if you're never faced with the kinds of stressful situation that calls upon a person to make hard, morally questionable decisions.

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While there are studies that prove that even terribly young babies can understand the basics of good people vs bad people, it takes time and learning to understand more complex moral situations.

I think humans are always inclined towards pro-social behaviour. But I also think almost everyone is capable of actions we would call evil.

There are very few who are brave enough to be good in the face of overwhelming adversity. I'm thinking of people like the German students who stood up against the Nazi regime - in particular the girl whose last words were defiant even as she faced a firing squad.

No, I don't, but I happen to have a religious POV on that detail. Humans are sinners, so we're all natural assholes.

I'm feeling a bit cynical tonight.

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