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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-30 06:44 pm
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[ SECRET POST #3953 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3953 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 42 secrets from Secret Submission Post #566.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Why?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a show based off a book series. In the book series the main character has no interest in a long term relationship. In the show there's a lot of sex-with-random-men, but also a slow burn with her police counterpart. A lot of book fans *hate* this.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
(Same anon) In the books she does actually have one long-term but non-monogamous relationship with a married man. There's some... rather unfortunate implications of her being a concubine to a Civilised Chinaman stereotype, which sucks because the author does some AMAZING historical worldbuilding outside of this. So there are also book fans who want to see THAT relationship, which was never going to happen in the series because of medium differences. (With 50 minutes per episode and 8-13 episodes a season, any recurring love interest has to serve other purposes in the narrative for time reasons, hence hooking her up with the police officer who is also investigating the cases)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
(Me again) I'm not the secret maker, btw. Just an idiot who managed to post accidentally TWICE while trying to reply. The bit quoted about the extra scene is why I'm presuming this is about the ships/non-ships. The Phryne/Jack shippers were instrumental to getting teh third series made and teh production company knew they'd have to tap into that enthusiasm, but for the non-shippers I can imagine that "We doubled our goal in about two days! Here's something you feel will ruin the series" was rather off-putting.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
"In the book series the main character has no interest in a long term relationship."

Well, no. She has relationship with Lin Chung that stretches over several books, though I've lost count how many. Phryne is definitely very interested in maintaining it, and they came to an unusual arrangement after he got married where she was also friends with his wife.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Which I clarifed after hitting post. (When my cat jumped on my lap, which might be a new level of accidental posting) She has no interest in conventional long-term monogamous romantic relationships, but keeps a variety of lovers for (usually short) periods of time. Lin Chung is the exception, though given the fact that the series spans less than two years and she's *not* with him the time we see a jump into the future, I think the general point stands.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get it. Why aren't you excited anymore?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
What movie? I'm guessing it's your NOTP.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well shoot, I knew there was talk of making a movie but didn't even know there was a Kickstarter. Was it the added scene that kind of spoiled it for you? I'm not crazy about the idea because I rather like that Phryne's in lots of different relationships with men and has a flirtation with Jack. Their chemistry adds a nice tension to the show and I'd hate to see it ruined.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The Kickstarter video (which was wonderfully silly and poked fun at the fandom's occasional obsession with Jack/Nathan Page in a wonderful way) made sure to highlight that there are lovers besides Jack involved in the script. Whether that's before he arrives on scene or if there's some sort of open relationship deal is less clear. But Phryne's sexual independence is something that's been kept front and centre in the promotional material.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
What movie is this? Is it fan made?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm fairly sure it's about Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries, a tv series that's been discussing the possibility of a movie.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. There were some small funding gaps and a lot of industry reluctance to invest in an action movie led by a woman in her 40s, so the Kickstarter did double duty of plugging those gaps and proving to investors there was demand.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This secret is so fucking confusing lmao thanks for the touch of mystery for today's F!S, OP!

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
The Phryne/Jack will-they-or-won't-they is one of the main reasons I lost all interest in the show. I feel that it makes Phryne going against Jack's wishes in her investigations less of a 'I respect you, but this is what I feel is right' and more of a 'tee-hee, I'm so naughty', which is just... ugh.
Also, I miss Ruth, and they replaced the communist lesbian Eliza with the Dead Little Sister Janey. :C

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Trading communist lesbian Eliza for Dead Little Sister Janey was one of the decisions I don't like about the show. I feel like it was done to give Phryne a more angsty past... you know, more angsty than going through a world war.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Ha, ok, I love Phyne's independence, but I'm so there for Phryne/Jack, I never knew that it's somehow totally incompatible...?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
It's not. The ending of series three subverting teh "Running ot the airport to keep the love interest from leaving" trope made that abundantly clear.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
(That sounded grumpier than I had intended. Most of the TV fandom embraces the "Phryne and Jack embrace a relationship that works for them both and fosters their independence", but you get a few outliers who refuse to see nuance--either Phryne's going to suddenly settle down and get married and have a million kids because of Jack's magic dick, or everything about Phryne is RUINED because this character who is constantly embracing love cannot POSSIBLY include romantic love in that.)
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