[ SECRET POST #3953 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3953 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

09. https://i.imgur.com/oQnPlSb.png

[cbrachyrhynchos]

The late-night venue is primarily a place for celebs to drop titillating or stupid humor referencing their current project.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. That's just late-night.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I wonder if "what was it like to kiss..." became a late-night staple with Carson, or was that a Letterman thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't read the text so I don't know what she said exactly, but I once read an article with actors and actresses talking about love scenes. The actresses were all like, ewww, and the actors were trying to play it cool and not be all like, oh god it was so awesome, but most of them failed.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen this gifset and I think it's this:

That's why I signed the movie to begin with

They said, there's a kiss scene and I was like, oh [looks disappointed/bored?]

Then they say, with Isla Fisher and then I was like oh! [looks excited and happy]

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks!

I don't think anyone would have found it creepy if it was the opposite way around, though it can depend on who it was. Like, if it was Woody Allen talking about Gal Gadot, yeah, that would be creepy. But if it was Chris Pratt talking about Gal Gadot, aside from the Chris Pratt haters, everyone would have been, okay, that's cool.

And how is a lesbian kiss not an accomplishment in today's day and age? Come on, OP, you know better than that.

[supermanda]

I don't agree with your first point at all; it seems to imply that men and women are viewed as a lot more equal than they are now. Of course it would look creepy if a man said this, but the reason it's not when Gal says it is because it's just not the same, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

i agree it's not entirely the same but it's pretty hinkie in some broadly similar ways, I think

[(Anonymous)]

I can't agree with this at all. I don't think it's creepy to take an opportunity to kiss someone you find attractive in a situation where you can (ie a scripted situation like this where it's not like Gal was forcing herself on the other actress), whether you're male OR female.

I think if you find it creepy though (which is everyone's right to have a differing opinion) it should be creepy regardless of the sexes of the people involved.

[killertofuuu]

I think if you find it creepy though (which is everyone's right to have a differing opinion) it should be creepy regardless of the sexes of the people involved.

Hmm, I can't agree with this. It's not up to you to tell an individual what they should and shouldn't be creeped out by. It's a purely subjective/knee-jerk feeling. You have no idea what their life experience has been.

I will say this, though. Personally, I don't think it'd be anymore creepy if a man said it. Attraction is attraction, and is not harmful in and of itself. It's what you do with it that matters.

[(Anonymous)]

That isn't what she said, though? She just isn't as bored with the idea of a sex scene because she's more interested in the actress. As opposed to angling for the part simply in order to kiss that particular actress.

[(Anonymous)]

The reason you feel it's not the same is because of benevolent sexism.

Your feeling is well-meaning, but still inherently sexist. And benevolent sexism can be the most harmful.

[(Anonymous)]

How... is it benevolent sexism to go "it's creepy when a guy says this because guys still largely hold power over women?"

[(Anonymous)]

Just judging by the caps you used in your secret, she didn't really say anything all that objectionable... IME male actors who get criticized for being creepy about their female co-stars are saying more explicit things. Joking on a late night show that she was excited to kiss her female co-star is pretty innocent. Not to mention that male actors making sexual jokes about their female co-stars is more of a loaded action due to sexism.

Also, I don't think most people are acting like it is a "major accomplishment" that she kissed a woman on screen. I think they're just excited whenever an actor they like shows any kind of acceptance towards the LGBT community.

[ninety6tears]

I honestly think kissing is probably never that enjoyable as part of a performance and actors talk it up like this because it's what the audience wants to hear. Men definitely get asked about it too, though they might choose their words differently.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't honestly know

I mean, kissing is pretty fucking intrinsically enjoyable

[thewakokid]

I'm with you, OP, though I won't be shitting on Gal Godot for anything, cause I'd be the exact same way. It wouldn't make me any creepier than Gal. people who think "Well, no, this is a case when it's ok to treat the sexes different" can screw off.

[raspberryrain]

I've actually seen this interview, and I think Gadot was really trying to tease the audience with this (and also get people to remember the movie existed and go see it).

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[raspberryrain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hqLoT7RINU

[hamimi_fk]

I am deeply confused by this. You're saying it's creepy a female joked and/or actually was interested in kissing another woman in a film as opposed to her disinterest in kissing a male? That she signed up to a woman-being-a-utter-badass type film moreso because she wouldn't have to portray a heteronormative character WHILE playing a character who comes from bisexual/lesbian place of origin? It's creepy to want to do something not of the norm?

Had this been a male actor speaking about how they were more intrigued to sign up for a role because they would get the opportunity to kiss another male actor that was good looking, would it be creepy then? Would it be strictly laughed off as silliness even if perhaps in his heart of hearts that HAD been his only motive? Would the scene just been 'an act' simply because it was done on-screen? So you're implying that actors are less creepy when they giggle about signing up to do a film simply because X of the opposite sex would be possibly have a kissing scene with them? I mean, I do feel as though I'm missing something here.

[esteefee]

I don't think you're missing something. I think AYRT has gone off into the undergrowth.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with all of this, and yeah, I think the anon above me is right. Also, lol, "gone off into the undergrowth" is perfect.

[thewakokid]

I think they're saying, or at least my reading of it it, it's not creepy, but it would have been seen as creepy if a guy had got super excited about kissing her.

[(Anonymous)]

Kissing another woman is a big accomplishment, though. You have to factor i wind speed and angle of rotation... so much harder than kissing a man.