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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-26 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #4041 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4041 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia; linked for illustrated? nudity / OP warned for NSFW]


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11. [SPOILER for Stranger Things, season 2]



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12. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #578.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a woman and I agree with you totally.

This story has smelled rotten to me since it broke.

Does it sound like he's perhaps a greedy, self-absorbed bastard in the bedroom? Yes. Does it sound like he's a predator to me? No.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Does it sound like he's perhaps a greedy, self-absorbed bastard in the bedroom? Yes. Does it sound like he's a predator to me? No.

But I think a lot of the point of talking about the story is asking, first, where do we draw the line between those two things - because I think it's a complicated and ambiguous line. And second, even if you accept that distinction, is it actually just fine to be a greedy, self-absorbed bastard in the bedroom? Is that something that we should actually just accept as normal as long as no one breaks a law? And if so, why?

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

is it actually just fine to be a greedy, self-absorbed bastard in the bedroom?

That would depend on whether the other party is into that sort of thing. Choice of sexual partner is a thing.

Is that something that we should actually just accept as normal as long as no one breaks a law?

It's not normal. If this is your normal, perhaps you start examining the types of guys you go out with because I know from experience there are plenty that aren't like that.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
That would depend on whether the other party is into that sort of thing. Choice of sexual partner is a thing.

NAYRT

+1. If it isn't your thing, then leave. Which is what she did. And she's entitled to regret the way that things worked out, which was not romance and flowers but an expectation of sex, but regretting an encounter doesn't elevate it to sexual assault.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's not normal. If this is your normal, perhaps you start examining the types of guys you go out with because I know from experience there are plenty that aren't like that.

So do you think that it's reasonable to point out that it's bad, and to say that, to the extent that it is treated as being normal or acceptable or as an expected part of life, that it shouldn't be?

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of women do seem to think this sort of behavior is normal and to be expected.

Grace herself said it: "You guys are all the same"

Which is puzzling to me, yes, because men are not all the same. And I personally wouldn't find this behavior acceptable and generally avoid these types of guys.

Now if your goal is to change these types of guys. LMAO. Good fucking luck trying to change anyone.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
OK, so your problem with having this conversation is that you think it's pointless because no one will ever change, and the most anyone can do is avoid bad people as much as possible?

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Correct.

In fact, I believe trying to change people is its own form of narcissism and sociopathy.

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
Boys will be boys, men don't need to change so just the poor innocent angels be. They don't need to change, stupid bitches need to find the right man! #notallmen

It's very easy to avoid the asshole men because they have big flashing lights going "I'M A RAPIST" at all times. Nice guys are so nice. It's so easy to tell which ones are nice.

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
BINGO

Not sure I'd wanna date Aziz Ansari after reading the article. But I wouldn't be scared to be alone with him.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-01-27 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I have spent way too much time on 4chan, the comment I was about to make...

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Don't be coy, love.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-01-27 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Don't try and trap me into getting banned.

It's to do with the "Open Bobs / Show Vegana" meme that's doing the rounds.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Now you're just being a tease.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2018-01-27 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. I haven't seen that one on Know Your Meme.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-01-27 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Well, strictly speaking, it was the kitchen. And he did go down first. All other concerns aside, those are two facts to consider...

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
"And he did go down first."

I..

........

looks at your other comments about dropping racial remarks and saying incredibly disgusting, sexist shit.

So, going by your 'logic,' just because he went down first, means he was automatically granted a free Pussy Pass. And they were in the kitchen which for some bizarre reason is fine. Christ, I feel sorry for any poor woman that dates you.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
As a woman, let me share some astonishing news: allowing a guy to eat you out is in fact a pretty strong indicator you may be interested in having intercourse with him.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
getting eaten out still isn't the same as consenting to sex

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
god i fucking hate this entire generation

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
IDK, I think a person who expects someone to do them sexual favors, but doesn't want to reciprocate, is a pretty shitty person.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
Getting eaten out is already a sexual act you dimwit. She already consented. She could have and ultimately did withdraw her consent and he actually backed off. But once she consented to get her damn pussy eaten, with no additional cues, yes, most people, male or female, would take this as a consent for additional sexual intercourse.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-01-27 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
What the why? Erm, no, my logic is not "just because he went down first, means he was automatically granted a free Pussy Pass."

Look at the comment I was responding to:

Does it sound like he's perhaps a greedy, self-absorbed bastard...
he performed the first sexual favour

...in the bedroom?
They where in the kitchen.

Are... are you only reading my comments? Because that's real flattering, but you're only hearing half a conversations.

The best half, I grant you, but still you're going to miss out on a lot of context.
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(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Selfish? The first thing he did was go down on her before even trying to get her to blow him.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
She still had wine in her glass at the restaurant!

Dude wouldn't get a second date from me. And definitely not sex.