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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-26 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #4041 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4041 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia; linked for illustrated? nudity / OP warned for NSFW]


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11. [SPOILER for Stranger Things, season 2]



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12. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #578.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I just can't believe I'm apparently the only woman in the world who finds it really bizarre that a woman would endure unwanted advances for 30+ minutes when she could remove herself from the situation.

JFC, stop being a victim and exercise some fucking agency.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a woman and I agree with you totally.

This story has smelled rotten to me since it broke.

Does it sound like he's perhaps a greedy, self-absorbed bastard in the bedroom? Yes. Does it sound like he's a predator to me? No.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Does it sound like he's perhaps a greedy, self-absorbed bastard in the bedroom? Yes. Does it sound like he's a predator to me? No.

But I think a lot of the point of talking about the story is asking, first, where do we draw the line between those two things - because I think it's a complicated and ambiguous line. And second, even if you accept that distinction, is it actually just fine to be a greedy, self-absorbed bastard in the bedroom? Is that something that we should actually just accept as normal as long as no one breaks a law? And if so, why?

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

is it actually just fine to be a greedy, self-absorbed bastard in the bedroom?

That would depend on whether the other party is into that sort of thing. Choice of sexual partner is a thing.

Is that something that we should actually just accept as normal as long as no one breaks a law?

It's not normal. If this is your normal, perhaps you start examining the types of guys you go out with because I know from experience there are plenty that aren't like that.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
That would depend on whether the other party is into that sort of thing. Choice of sexual partner is a thing.

NAYRT

+1. If it isn't your thing, then leave. Which is what she did. And she's entitled to regret the way that things worked out, which was not romance and flowers but an expectation of sex, but regretting an encounter doesn't elevate it to sexual assault.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's not normal. If this is your normal, perhaps you start examining the types of guys you go out with because I know from experience there are plenty that aren't like that.

So do you think that it's reasonable to point out that it's bad, and to say that, to the extent that it is treated as being normal or acceptable or as an expected part of life, that it shouldn't be?

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
BINGO

Not sure I'd wanna date Aziz Ansari after reading the article. But I wouldn't be scared to be alone with him.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-01-27 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I have spent way too much time on 4chan, the comment I was about to make...

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Don't be coy, love.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-01-27 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Well, strictly speaking, it was the kitchen. And he did go down first. All other concerns aside, those are two facts to consider...

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
"And he did go down first."

I..

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looks at your other comments about dropping racial remarks and saying incredibly disgusting, sexist shit.

So, going by your 'logic,' just because he went down first, means he was automatically granted a free Pussy Pass. And they were in the kitchen which for some bizarre reason is fine. Christ, I feel sorry for any poor woman that dates you.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
As a woman, let me share some astonishing news: allowing a guy to eat you out is in fact a pretty strong indicator you may be interested in having intercourse with him.

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Selfish? The first thing he did was go down on her before even trying to get her to blow him.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
She still had wine in her glass at the restaurant!

Dude wouldn't get a second date from me. And definitely not sex.
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-01-27 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Nah I've seen a lot of women who think it's really bizarre. i read the story, and while I'm not a woman I've been sexually assaulted and raped several times. At no point did the story cross over into what I what I would consider either, bc she literally at any point could have called the encounter off, told him she didn't like x thing, etc. but she didn't. And when she did speak up and tell him to slow things down, he did.

I mean her complaint is basically "he was pushy and inconsiderate (that's a fair complaint, but that doesn't make it assault) and he didn't read my mind."

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I think that very few people said that it was rape, though, or even sexual assault. I don't think that's really what the argument was at any point.
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-01-27 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen a surprising number calling it assault, actually. Because he was too pushy, I guess.

I think it's an interesting story and worth talking about in the "people should be more considerate lovers" sense. But not so much in the #metoo sense, which is how a lot of people took it.

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
The article framed it as sexual assault.

Grace says her friends helped her grapple with the aftermath of her night with Ansari. “It took a really long time for me to validate this as sexual assault,” she told us. “I was debating if this was an awkward sexual experience or sexual assault. And that’s why I confronted so many of my friends and listened to what they had to say, because I wanted validation that it was actually bad.”

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
you got gay raped? lol

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
you were born retarded? lol
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-01-27 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
And straight raped, too! :D

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
I don't agree with soldatsasha's opinion on this secret, but wow, you are a garbage person.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"Stop being a victim"

Ah, yes, because me going along with the rape I suffered through because I said yes when the guy twice my size had gotten violent with me before and I was legitimately afraid because he was in just the right mood where he could either walk away or throttle me means I was just being a victim.

Fuck you. Except no, because you're too vile to deserve anything but complete loneliness.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi. Actual rape victim here.

Shut the fuck up, you raging sexist asshole. You sound like every man who told me I deserved it because I went along with it because the guy who raped me had a violent temper. So I said yes because I was legitmately afraid for me life, and it has since made me afraid to communicate with men because everyone thought he was Just So Nice Except Those Few Times You Deserve His Anger.

Deal with it.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
How about you stop projecting your personal issues with this on this particular case?