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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-03 04:07 pm

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
there are DEFINITELY right wing libertarians. very much so.

Penn & Teller just don't happen to be right wing, afaik.
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Re: Politics and fandoms

[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-03 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
What about the alternative. I think I might count as left by my own standards, but by current norms it feels like I'm a classified as a right winger. So with that in mind, any right wing people who like big old lefties?

For me, I always liked Ollie Queen.
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Re: Man, /cgl/ tho. Fucking /cgl/.

[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-03 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Touche

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. So much so that every time the topic comes up, people are so eager to rush in and denounce the people who justify/apologize for villains, even if no justifying/apologizing has taken place yet.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I want an Allmate too! Especially a cute one like Ren. I just don't want him to end up with a portion of my personality and end eating me.
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Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-03 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
So, I learned today that I know someone who is into monsters and stuff, and when I mentioned "The Wolfman Lawrence Talbot" they looked at me blank.

Turns out they know about werewolves and junk, but not the wolfman. Like not even just that they don't know the name Talbot, they don't know about THE WOLFMAN.

That's odd, right?

Like, not as bad as being:
"I like vampires"
"Oh, cool, like count dracula?"
"Fucking who?"
but pretty close to that level of "HOW?!", right?

Re: Politics and fandoms

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I also love Ron. But then, he's also a common sense conservative, and I respect that. (I also know conservatives IRL like that. Sure, they have very different views, but it's not in a Trumpian way.)
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-03 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I agree, I've met them. but there are no right wing EXTREMIST libertarians - No, people will jump on that if I leave it as it is - There are of course some people who would call themselves that, I'm sure, but as far as libertarian ideals go, you can't be in favour of low governmental interference, and also that the govenment should do something about the JQ. People are perfectly capable of being inconsistant, but those two ideologies don't fit..

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
but pretty close to that level of "HOW?!", right?

I don't think so at all. There's a big difference between Dracula as a pop culture figure, and the Wolfman. Dracula exists in so many different forms - best-selling, genre-defining book, and then approximately a million different adaptations - and its narrative and general notes are really powerful and formative and well done. In contrast, the Wolfman is something that's really pretty specific to the 1930s/1940s monster movie ethos. Which is something that's obviously influential but at the same time, much more niche, and much more limited by the time period in which it was produced. It's just not a particular interesting iteration on the genre tropes in the way that Dracula still is.

Also, just personally, I would have recognized a Lon Chaney reference but I definitely wouldn't know the actual character's name. So there's also that.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-03 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno, I'll take my wins where I can get them. If you agree with the outcome I want, I'll take it even if you don't agree with the reason why. I don't need you to share my morals, but I'd like it if you help me to achieve my goals.

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
That does seem odd. But how into it are they?

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Your personal conception of those ideas don't fit together, but there are definitely people who claim that they do fit together and who identify quite strongly as extreme right-wing libertarians. whether or not their ideas are sound, it's a thing that does exist.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
This so much.
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Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-03 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe, but you would have recognised me talking about "The Wolfman", right? Talbot, I get, but it's the freaking WOLFMAN. Like, he's up there with all the people Scooby Doo has unmasked, for example. It's Frankenstein. Dracula, the Mummy, and the Wolfman.

How do you not know of the existence of the Wolfman?

What are some movies that your opinion has changed on after numerous viewings?

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Could be from good to bad or bad to good.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
once bitten, twice shy

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

good secret
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[personal profile] viv_vivillon 2018-02-03 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I can barely remember this game but doesn't that Allmate turn into a bishie who's kind of rapey? Or possibly extremely rapey since most of the romances were.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, not actually being a fractured piece of my own personality and also not eating me would be stipulations to any Allmate I purchased, too.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. I don't disagree with you, but I'm also struggling to see how saying that the government shouldn't dictate anyone's marriage really helps gay people who want their marriages legally recognized. If anything, it sounds like someone assuring you of their support while they're comfortably seated on the fence.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just hard to imagine him being an action-movie spy. It would have to be even more light-hearted and cartoonish than the Roger Moore movies, and those were already pushing it.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-03 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, extremeist ideas are almost by definition unsound, but I don't get how people can rationalise wanting small government and wanting to make sure the government steps in to help their ideologies?

I admit, I don't really know what somone who calls themself right wing would want, but as the right wing is a political stance dedicated to acquiring governmental control to secure their way of life, I can't see how any of that fits with libertarian ideals - which I do feel pretty secure on speaking about - about keeping government out of peoples business.
Edited 2018-02-03 22:27 (UTC)

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. Weird. I wouldn't say I'm super into werewolves, but I know who you're talking about and I've seen the Lon Chaney Jr. film. I think maybe Bela Lugosi as Dracula is a bit more iconic to most people, but for someone who's into monsters I'd be surprised they weren't familiar with the character or the movie.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-03 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't need me to give you permission to ship whatever you want.
I don't need you to give me permission to think something is fucked up.

If you try to force me to stop disliking your ship, we have a problem.
If I try to force you to stop liking your ship, we have a problem.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2018-02-03 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I looked this guy up. He literally debuted with a song about being white.

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