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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-15 05:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #557 ]


⌈ Secret Post #557 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-15 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Way to make a personal attack. How is this a secret exactly?
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-16 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of amusing how many people don't know what the hell they're talking about though :)

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-16 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get the point of it. Was it supposed to endear us to fandom wank by saying that it isn't about "them?" That they don't instigate things because this supposed secret is doing exactly that. It's not as though you've been on fandom wank recently either. The OP is just trying to stir up shit and it wouldn't surprise me if he/she/it responded to the secret in the comments. Lame.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-16 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, most of the positive responses I've seen to this secret are anonymous. *shrug* It is very lame.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-16 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
That's because you'd write a long screed about how meeeeaaan we are in your LJ and that's honestly more effort than I'm willing to put in to this.

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[identity profile] oldfashioned-lj.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Which she would likely keep under flock. So unless you're a friend of hers, you wouldn't have to read it. If you are a friend of hers, then that makes this secret even more pathetic.

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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-16 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't particularly want you to slander me any more than you already have, but if my writing anything in my own LJ constitutes effort for you, then one of three things is going on:

1) you're in some way soul-bonded to me so that you have to write it along with me (which I'm pretty sure isn't true),

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2) whatever you want me to think you'd have said is so libellous and evil that my friends would dogpile you and FS wouldn't post it anyway, in which case, good on you for not posting it,

OR

3) you should really stop reading my journal. There's even a nifty little admin console hack that you can use so that you don't even see my comments on things and I suggest you learn to use it so that you never have to pay attention again to any of the people that bother you. And if you're on my friends list you should definitely leave.

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[identity profile] crantz.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
And you're still not going to get it, are you? I can see why I've seen so many people being frustrated each time you open your mouth.

/was linked here by interested viewers. And I do distinctly recall another linking 'round of you blaming first Heidi Tandy and then, of all people, Michela Ecks for shit. You're kind of weird.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-16 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Er? Heidi is my friend. Man, this has gotten distorted.

Michela has a problem with me, and vice versa, but Heidi is my friend and I never blamed her for anything.

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[identity profile] ayasugi-san.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
*poke* If you can't grow magic internet powers and stop all FW members from trolling ever at all, then someone wants your soul instead (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/178113.html?thread=68252609#t68252609).

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-17 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Why is it so important to you that she "get it" if this happened a while ago? Do you guys really care that much?

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-17 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
MY E-COCK IN YOUR MOUTH

FOR IT NEEDS A HOME

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-16 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, the point is that they're trying to explain why exactly people make fun of her (whether they're on Fandom_Wank or not). She keeps insisting it's because of Fandom_Wank or Michela or whatever, when the truth is, she's eminently wanky on her own merits, and that's why people make fun of her.

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[identity profile] oldfashioned-lj.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
How is the secret "her own merits?" The person who made it is obviously a member of fandom wank and bringing about a personal attack on her while, in the same metaphorical breath, is saying that it's because of what she does personally.

(Using my account because I'm sick of having to confirm that I'm a human.)

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[identity profile] cains-underoos.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, that secret maker was obviously trying to bait you into wank and its something you fell into; hook, line n' sinker. If you're going to cry "WOLF!" every time f_w comes up or your conflict with f_w, people are not going to forget about it.

Oh, and I'm an f_w member too. I'm tehrin on there. I had to say something because you are like watching a lemming on the edge a cliff.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-17 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Except she isn't rising to any bait. I made a comment and it got replied to not just by her, but also by a bunch of FW idiots who have a compulsive need for her to understand why they don't like her. She didn't cry "wolf." She responded to the secret in a civilized manner. Not her fault if all her points are being proven by the bunch of fuckers that came from the community.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-16 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what that secret was about. That S word sounds like one of the kids' name from HP though... no idea beyond that.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-16 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it was about me and when I was in HP fandom, back in 2005, I was a Slytherin fan. *yawn*

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-16 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Slytherfen is a derogatory word for a fan of the Slytherin house. Yes, people take fandom so seriously as to call other people in fandom names just due to liking a character. As for the secret, it was concerning material in a person's mostly flocked journal that's been spread around and used for continual insults from a place called fandom wank.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-16 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Slytherfen is a derogatory word for a fan of the Slytherin house.

No, it's a label she gave herself.

it was concerning material in a person's mostly flocked journal that's been spread around and used for continual insults from a place called fandom wank.

Funny, I could have sworn it was public comments she left on fandom_wank about her sexual experiences.

Do carry on. You're obviously up on all the details.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-16 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's a label she gave herself.

I'd like proof of that.

Funny, I could have sworn it was public comments she left on fandom_wank about her sexual experiences.

Again, proof. I'm a member of fandom wank and I've never seen any such comments.

Do carry on. You're obviously up on all the details.

So let's see you actually contradicting me with factual details instead of what you've pulled out of your ass.

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cleverthylacine: I am 100% Slytherin bb (Slytherin Pride)

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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-16 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
If you're talking about those comments I made in a discussion of whether or not a person could actually do something sexually (I think it had to do with anal sex but I'm not sure), I think that was four years ago. I haven't left a plague of them all over LJ, or there would be more people who know what you think you're talking about. As with many things on FW it's a legend that's grown in the telling. If you hate me for bringing up my sexual experiences in discussions of whether or not a sexual act is possible or whether women can experience certain sensations, I hope you hate Minotaur too, because he certainly thinks his experiences are the world's experiences. Also, I wasn't the only one "oversharing" in that discussion. NOT that I care what you lot think.

I do not think my experiences are the world's experiences or that anyone else's are either but I have mentioned my personal experiences in terms of why I believe some of the things that I do. If you dislike that aspect of my commentary, just don't read me. And if someone's wondering if something's possible and I DID IT, why should I not tell them so? Jeez.

I'm not sure who coined the word Slytherfan/Slytherfen. I used to use it because it initially just referred to people who preferred Slytherin over Gryffindor, but I'm pretty sure I heard it somewhere else. It has become a derogatory term largely because of the things people say on F_W.

As for flocked comments, someone on this community anonymously did actually admit to being on my friendslist just so they could snigger over stuff I wrote behind flock and share it with friends who love F_W. I've known for a while that someone is doing this and if I ever find out who it is I'm not going to keep it a secret, so I advise them to GTFO my flist before I find out.

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[identity profile] rotten-fish.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Slytherfen is a derogatory word for a fan of the Slytherin house.

No.

Yes, people take fandom so seriously as to call other people in fandom names just due to liking a character.

Like Gryffindorks. Or Harmoanians. Or Mo'rons. But not Slytherfen, because like the nonny said that's a popular term that many Slytherin fans took on.

As for the secret, it was concerning material in a person's mostly flocked journal that's been spread around and used for continual insults from a place called fandom wank.

If I wanted to bother, I'm pretty sure I can bring up links where she mentioned here on F!S that FW hated her because of being friends with Heidi8 and something about Michela Ecks. I remember because it made me laugh. The oversharing was done on FW, and she was wanked for the Slytherfen apologist thing years ago on FW. So no, there is no breach in flock of any kind.

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Not the same anon as above but if the oversharing was done when she was on Fandom Wank and she's already stated that she left the place and the Slytherfen thing was years ago, then why are people from FW harping on her still? Unless you just had to do so because she mentioned FW on F!S awhile ago and if that's true then what? She's never allowed to mention FW again otherwise you people will bring up grudges from years ago?

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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-16 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
If I wanted to bother, I'm pretty sure I can bring up links where she mentioned here on F!S that FW hated her because of being friends with Heidi8 and something about Michela Ecks.

You probably could and I don't deny that I've said that part of F_W's problem with me has to do with them. I could also probably find the comment where someone (who does not represent F_W--does anyone--but certainly someone who posts there a lot) flat out told me that a lot of people on F_W do hate me because of my friends.

I was a Slytherin "apologist" (man, I didn't know this was a religion) up till 2005 based on what was written in the first five books; also I was criticised for saying that there were important differences between magickal blood prejudice and racism which made it STILL WRONG, but not the same kind of bigotry. As far as the books existed up to that point I still don't think I was wrong but who cares? Is fictional bigotry against people who don't even exist serious business? I stopped caring about Harry Potter about three months after HBP came out. Yes, we called ourselves Slytherfen, it became derogatory after it was used that way on F_W, and...who cares?

I always thought that Rowling was going to bring the four houses together again and explain the why of Voldemort's rise, and it was pretty clear by the end of HBP that that was not where she was going when she made Tom Riddle a genetic sociopath. Since Slytherin was my main interest, that was all she wrote for me and HP (I have a game that used to be an HP RPG, but is now multifandom and in no way canon--if you think that counts fine but I don't).

But that's when I told F_W off for harassing the Harmony fans (no, I'm not one of them--I wrote H/G and H/D), and that's when F_W really went off on me. Those sex comments were made a year or so before that.

Anyhow: WHATEVER. I don't like F_W, I think they are nasty, mean, unpleasant people in general, there are a few exceptions but there always are. I don't actually care why they don't like me. I would not approve of what they do if they thought I was an angel from heaven and unicorns danced in my shadows. If the sex comments I made in 2004 were the actual reason they hate my guts, I'd think they'd be over it. But I don't actually care. I disapprove of what they do regardless of their opinions about me. They'd still be the people who screwed over bunches of other people I know.

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