[ SECRET POST #4268 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4268 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

1. As a whole, the fandom audience doesn't seem to comment as much as they used. to.

2. Or perhaps you just don't pander as much as you used to.

[(Anonymous)]

#2 is a good point and (I'm sure) not to meant to be insulting. Fanfic tropes are popular because that's what the reader wants. Their faves drinking coffee and flirting and complaining about hard tests, instead of sobbing ugly cries because all their friends are dead.

to a reader, too much originality can feel a little risky, when they want pretty people snowed in so they don't have to go to work and just get to sit around with their crush.

[(Anonymous)]

I get this too, supposedly your writing improves over time but I get fewer and fewer comments. The only fic that gets lots of comments is BNF pwp stuff and being a BNF these days means getting popular on Tumblr so yes, not an option for me as I rarely write explicit stuff and get burned out if I spend too long on Tumblr. Too many posts on Tumblr saying authors are "entitled" if they want comments and giving excuses as to why it's too difficult for people to bother, despite authors saying that feedback is why they post.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you still write for active fandoms? Most of my older and crappier fics have lots of comments while my newer ones don't because the fandoms died down.

[(Anonymous)]

Timing is a LOT in fanfiction. I happened to write a decent fic for a rarepair when that fandom was dying down and not a lot of content was being produced and that thing has gotten more hits/comments that anything I've ever written before. I've also written unpopular het fic when a fandom is 'high tide' and gotten TONS of comments...then a popular slashy thing when fandom is in hibernation and gotten zilch responses. So timing really plays a big role.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't believe what a lonely place fandom is now compared with what it was. I used to make loads of friends through fandom and now people can't even be bothered to click on a kudos button. Sad.

[(Anonymous)]

which donald trump tweet is this

[(Anonymous)]

Whut?

I happen to agree with the above comment. Fandom does seem lonelier now.

[(Anonymous)]

it's just the way you phrased things

he ends a lot of tweets with "Sad!" in a weird dismissive way

your comment is fine but I kind of chuckled at the response, because I can hear the cadence of his tweets, yeah

[(Anonymous)]

The intended humor missed the mark, my friend. Probably because most sane people are deeply insulted by being compared to Trump in any way, so if that's not your intention, maybe rethink your approach. The supposed connection is pretty vague anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

I sometimes wonder if I don't get as many comments as some of the more crappily-written fics because I don't promote on tumblr or reddit or wherever, or I somehow come across as unfriendly or unapproachable? Part of it does seem to be an author popularity contest. Also, I hate walls of tags, but those fics seem to get more comments, too. Idk, man, idk.

[(Anonymous)]

Walls of Tags?!! OMG, don't get me started, I hate those so much! Why do readers like them?? Why, why, why??
I have encountered a huge wall of tags for a fic that was...700 words long. Like the tags were Longer. Than. The. Fic.

I'm a writer too, and darnit I refuse to pander with a wall of tags, plus god, I can't even think of that many tags! I already wrote the fic, dudes, how much more entertainment do you want out of me?!

[(Anonymous)]

agreeing that fandom just doesn't comment as much or as in depth as they used to. Its an across the board thing and I'm not sure what happened to kill off that habit/reaction in readers. Maybe the kudos button because you can still show you like it but with less effort?

also, younger fans, generally speaking, like younger written stuff. They're not going for good writing, they just want two dudes snowed in in a cabin with only one blanket. They'll get more picky the more fanfic they read as they go on but the young ones new to fandom tend to be the most vocal and likely to leave comments (not saying the older ones don't but the older ones also tend to take more time on their comments because they want them to say something so their comments are fewer between whereas the younger fans happily drop screeching tears and keep going immediately).

I mean, granted, all creativity suffers a little once you start putting rules on it but probably not the point it really ruins things. You might be writing more boring things but chances are high you're just writing things that have more investment involved. ie. its not you, its the fandom

[(Anonymous)]

That's a highly unflattering assessment of fandom, but I'm hard pressed to argue with it. IME, people tend not to leave long reviews these days, for various reasons. Fandom feels more like a product that is consumed by the audience without necessarily the community connection there was before. I don't feel as though readers really appreciate that there's another human being writing their fic and it might be nice to acknowledge them if you enjoy their work. Somehow that's seen as entitled...but getting hours of free entertainment and never saying thanks isn't. The kudos button is easier, faster and for a lot of people, clicking it is all the connection they want with creators.

[(Anonymous)]

It's really bizarre to me because fanworks absolutely are seen as a product and consumers feel a growing sense of entitlement to fanworks, but consuming fanworks is somehow simultaneously viewed as a favor to the creator. Fanfic is such a hot commodity that people with unpopular favorites view themselves as borderline oppressed because they don't have as much fic as Destiel fans do, yet the people who produce it are supposed to be grateful that someone clicked on their fic at all. Really, really weird. If it's so important to them you'd think they'd try to foster a sense of community.