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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-01 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #4411 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4411 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-01 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't agree (except for abandoning Tonks, which was garbage) but I'm too tired to argue about how the Marauders are all evil bullies anymore

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-01 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
For the record, I'm actually fine with adult James and Sirius. They both grew out of their bullying. Remus is the one that I think never grew out of who he was as a kid. Him and Snape.

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[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2019-02-02 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thank god cause we've all heard it ten thousand times before.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I mean forcibly holding someone in place and lifting up their pants by itself is pretty fucked up and a form of sexual assault soo

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Always punch Nazis, unless they're Snape.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-01 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Peter Pettigrew was in Gryffindor too. You don't just go into a house because of the traits you have, but because of the traits that you admire and aspire to possess one day.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2019-02-02 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I love it that Peter was in Gryffindor, really screwed up the whole "every wizard who went bad was in Slytherin" thing.

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-01 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I'd call him a coward (although Harry did, understandably). I just think he's extremely insecure and prone to running when things get tough. As anyone with his condition would probably be. It's more like a resigned sort of nihilism. His flaws are what make me love him.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-01 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
On one hand, he was a bit of a fuck up. On the other hand, his life was pretty shit, and made it a bit hard for him to be anything but.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2019-02-02 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Sirius grew up? Huh?

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's fairly obvious that Remus would not have been allowed to be Harry's life in between Dumbledore deliberately hiding and isolating him, and Remus's lycanthropy and its status in the wizarding world.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Why would Dumbledore be trying to isolate Harry? He wanted Harry to have a normal, muggle upbringing because in the wizarding world he was famous. Also, the wards protecting him required a blood relative, which meant the Dursley's, which is why he had to keep going back to them. There was no reason, once Harry started Hogwarts, that Dumbledore would have stopped Remus from writing. And certainly after Remus met Harry. Which Dumbledore allowed. Dumbledore hired Remus knowing he and Harry would talk. So I think you are reading far more into Dumbeldore's actions than are remotely there in the books.

Then again, a lot of fans do. For some reason, the idea that Dumbledore was outright evil and actively hurting Harry rather than this guy who didn't always make the right decisions but did things for the right reasons and really was trying to help Harry is popular, and I don't get it.

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! How is it not fucked up he ensured Harry would grow up ignorant of the wizarding world and entirely dependent.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
+1 x 1000

Because, really, this is just the absolute fact of the matter.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand why Remus does all these stuff. He was so desperate for friends and so happy that he was part of the Marauders that he couldn’t bring himself to say no, and even when Sirius pulled that “prank” on Snape which should’ve been a dealbreaker (because what if Remus did turn Snape?) Remus stayed friends with him. He had so much insecurities stemming from his lycanthropy that he convinced himself that it was best to stay away from Harry (and anyway Dumbledore would make sure Jame’s kid was in good hands) and then that he shouldn’t become romantically involved with Tonks.

I still don’t like Remus though and I don’t understand why so much of fandom fawns over this sad sack of a character.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Which Harry Potter characters do you like?

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I don't quite get this secret. In adulthood, Snape wasn't being bullied anymore, so what was it that Lupin was not stopping exactly ? Morever, we didn't see enough of the Marauders'time to imply that he was a constant passive observer. Maybe he didn't do enough, most likely due to what was said above about him fearing not being able to have any new friends because of his lycanthropy (not an excuse but some mitigating circumstances). He also has very low self-esteeming and was most likely blaming himself for James and Lilly's death. Adding, again, his lycanthropy, his trust in Dumbledore and the latter's persuasion, and you have a very likely explanation as to why he choose to stay away from Harry. The guy was super depressed basically.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
+ Yeah, plus, I'm not really sure what people expect from the guy in terms of staying in touch with Harry. If any of my friends had a baby and died, and I was told that the baby was safe with their family, I'm not sure how much I would fight to see that baby...? (especially considering all other things appening at that time in the wizarding world) Being a good friend of somebody's father is not really that much of a connection? The world does not make it very easy for you to stay in touch with a newborn that you are not related to (or in any way close to its guardians).

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Wizards don't want werewolves anywhere near their kids. There are probably actual rules against them going anywhere near muggles, especially when they're on magical maintenance meds.

I do have some problems with Lupin. Rowling obviously tried to make him a metaphor for something, but she didn't really think it through so there ends up being a ton of unfortunate implications by the end of the series. But that's less of a character issue and more of a literature issue.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
His arc in DH was so bad he went from one of my favorite characters to... just kind of ehhh. But I think everything leading up to that is pretty understandable given his circumstances, and those flaws make him a compelling character. Not the Tonks thing though. That crossed the line.

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
Just to talk about the deal with Tonks-
She, by far, was the guilty one in that relationship.
It doesn't help that there is so little context with the entire situation. (and with the Marauders as a whole really) But their relationship only began after the death of Sirius, the loss of another job, and yet again finding himself in the same war that took everything away from him in the first place. (and then some)
J.K. has a habit of creating relationships where she really shouldn't, but IMO, this one takes the cake. With the context given, Tonks took advantage of Remus' plight be it unconsciously or not. (my guess, not.)
Because (if only) the one thing that Remus would never do is pass off his lycanthropy in any way, shape, or form. He would never risk having a child if there was a single chance it could carry his werewolf genes.
Tonks may not carry the name of Black, but that doesn't mean she isn't one all the same... If at one point Remus came to his senses and left her, well, I really can't blame him for that.

(I would go on, but this is already a mess in itself, sorry)

(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Just wow. I've seen a lot of ridiculous interpretations, but this my be the absolute stupidest, most ridiculous. No. You are wrong on so many levels.

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(Anonymous) 2019-02-02 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I disagree a lot, but you do you, OP.