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Lots of people have been bringing this up: what do you think about having the secret makers put the fandom in the image itself, rather than the name-the-fandom thread? Like a note at the bottom of the image (eta: or a note in the comment itself) that says:

fandom: Dr. Who, or fandom: House, or fandom: fanfiction/fanart/rp, or fandom: Pokemon/Twilight Crossover with a Bella the Bellsprout and her sparkly vampire virgin pikachu boyfriend

I'd go into effect starting with the next subs post (so everything submitted this week is fine, don't worry). The first comment would still be there for repeats and stuff like that.

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What if the fandom is so small, spilling it would reveal the maker's identity?
If they didn't want to name the fandom, they probably wouldn't name characters or anything, right? So if it were like "I ship this one character with this other one, but no one else does and I feel alone, but this fandom is so small everyone would know it's me // fandom: character shipping"? That could work.

Does the fandom tag have to be on the image itself?
On second thought, probably not. You could just include it in the comment you put the link in, and that would work, too!

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I think it'd look kind of ugly.

i hate this idea. part of the fun is making the secret an in-joke so that only people familiar with the fandom will be able to identify the image.

IAWTC.

I think it would be aesthetically unpleasant.

Why is the No option "i'm lazy" and not "it's impractical/ugly/whatever"?

the survey maker is biased.

No, because then the people that decide not to post the picture of the fandom because then "obvious poster is obvious" would occur would have to BECOME obvious, and probably end up possibly think them think twice about posting a secret about their small fandom.

As long as forgetting or not wanting to put the fandom doesn't disqualify the secret from getting posted. IOW, as long as it's not required that you specify the secret's fandom.

No I don't believe this should be done. Because honestly if people don't recongize the fandom than they don't care, telling them isn't going to make a difference. Plus there is the whole losing the anonymity for some people which is what this entire comm is about.

Because honestly if people don't recongize the fandom than they don't care

Actually that's not true. There have different fandoms that have appeared on f!s, which I've thought looked interesting but had no clue what is was. A lot of those times it has been like pulling teeth trying to find someone who can identity the series.

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I like the idea of mentioning it in the comment you put the secret link in.

Personally, I think it's a great idea. And it needs to be a rule, not an advisory. Kinda like "name-the-fandom" people might start out being gung-ho about it but it'll eventually die down since it's not necessary. And then we're back to square one.

When "name-the-fandom" began it worked out well, because everybody and their mother were listing all the fandoms they knew. There was rarely ever a secret that wasn't named. Now, the thread is basically only used for repeats. And whenever I ask what a fandom is only part of the time do I get a response depending upon whether someone decides to read my secret or not.

I could go through an arseload of secrets (and I have before) just to get a clue if not see if anyone else asked, but I don't always feel like weeding through 9-10 pages of secrets... which, yeah, is my problem but why should I have to put that much effort into something that can be easily solved beforehand? And I know I'm not the only one that thinks that since the 'yes' votes have double the amount of 'no' votes above.

And as for secrets being rejected, what's the big deal about that? The person can post it again the next week. And beneath the secret and fandom name technophile can put that the fandom name originally wasn't given the previous week so that people don't go crying "REPEAT SEEKRIT". Or technophile doesn't have to do that and people have to suck it up. They'll learn. Yeah, the first few weeks might be pretty bad, but if people want to see their secret actually shown in the post then they'll learn.

And as for the too small fandoms, I'm kinda torn on this on. B/c it's normally the too small fandoms that I want to know about, so I'm half tempted to just say that the probability of the secret-maker being found out is greater than normal anyways so he/she might as well suck-it-up and deal. On the other hand, this is F!S so the person has every right not to be obviously found out, and if the commenter wants to know it he/she can do the research or ask in his/her own separate post. Whatever.

Aw hell, someone just gave me a good idea.

TABS

Make a tabs list of all of the fandoms named. And then, for those who are really gung-ho about knowing the fandom, the poster is guaranteed to know it if they put in the time and effort to search with the interwebz.

B/c while the 'WTF is this?' game can be fun, it's only fun when I'm guaranteed to know what the fandom is. And the people who truly care to know what the fandom is will put the work and effort into it.

And it doesn't need to be tabs. It could be

technophile's first post just listing all of the names. And it doesn't even need to be posted on the same day. He can post it on the next secret post day just to make certain that only people who really care will put in the effort.

Therefore, the secret maker isn't in any way compromised.

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I don't need it. I'm only interested in fandoms I know so I just skim for them. if I don't recognize the characters or whatever, knowing the name of the fandom isn't going to make me interested in the secret.

Why, as a secret maker, should someone be obligated to satisfy a stranger's curiosity?

It's a secret. It may be absurd or stupid or not much of a secret, but disallowing them just because the fandom it may or may not be about is left unidentified is bullshit. Really, if you're that curious about what the fandom is, make a comment to ask.

I don't like this idea. Many secrets are multi-fandom. That would get crowded fast.

I don't see a problem with just writing multi-fandom (12 characters) or if you for ex ship two characters from two different fandoms together just put both character's names. Either way it doesn't take more than 10 seconds to type.

But figuring out the fandom is part of the fun! I like going through the secrets and naming the fandoms I know and guessing at the ones I don't know.

Also, telling us the fandoms straight out would just... I dunno, it would feel less secret-like. It wouldn't be fandom!secrets without secret!fandoms.

IAWTC.

Yes! I would really like this, because there are many times when I really want to know what a certain fandom is because I've forgotten the name of it, or it looks interesting.

I don't like this idea for many of the reasons stated before.

Another reason: I have been contemplating posting a certain secret for a while now. If I make it obscure, it's just a general complaint about a certain type of fics. However, as soon as I'm forced to name the fandom, it turns into a personal attack because everyone in the fandom will know who wrote the fics of that type. I can imagine other situations like this as well.

I like leaving it up to the secret maker to decide if they want to add the fandom in the secret or not.

Won't this just create another list of fail next to the not!secrets, too big, doing it wrong, ect?

Aren't secrets supposed to be about venting or sharing, not satisfying others' curiosity? Sure, to some extent sharing the secret includes a bit of exhibitionism, but some do this a lot more than others ("obvious poster," "i know, cry moar," etc.). Some people may just want to get something off their chest without necessarily wanting the attention from other members of the fandom.

Uh - yeah, no. This community's for sharing secrets, not whoring out your fandom, or obliging random people's curiosity. The last two can happen because of the first, but making it a necessity is a pointless measure.

jrocksecret has a similar system ("post an url to the secret and the band's/fandom's/whatever's name") and I think it works out just fine. The name of the fandom could practically be everything from "twilight" to "multifandom" to "crazy bnf's", so anyone's identity shouldn't be in danger either. This would also be a huge help when trying to find a particular secret that was posted days or weeks ago, because even if I remember what the secret itself said, there's no way I can ctrl+f it.

THIS.

To be honest, my first reaction is "Hell no!", and an indignant one at that. I mean, I'm here to post a secret, not to whore myself to the spectators. And my secret is secret for a reason. Hence, even this anonymous commenting. It's the point. If I want any identifying bread crumbs, I might as well just post on my own journal.

It does make me question however: Just who is this comm for really?

If it's for people who simply wish to safely tell their secret, then naturally the more anonymous the better, and the above question shouldn't even be asked. If it's for the spectator, then you better make the above solution into a rule stat, add specialized comment threads for each secret on top of it, and do whatever else needed to make the comment reading/commenting process as convenient as possible.

At the end of the day though, the answer is probably closest to: both. This place exists for the secret maker, the spectator, and people who are either. Thus, the most logical answer is a compromise: Encourage it, but don't make it a rule. It's the best of both worlds, isn't it?

I think it should be strongly encouraged, not a hard and fast rule. Some secrets are about fandom in general or have multi fandoms and would look stupid with a list of twenty fandoms on the secret.

You can list on the rules on the submission post that it is prefered if you name the fandom on the secret or in the name the fandom thread, just to make people think about it a bit.

Honestly? It would be super helpful some of the time, like webcomic secrets, or fandoms from countries other than mine that look intriguing. I understand not "outing" small fandom secret makers, but occasionally, I get into fandoms through here, and wading through 11 pages of comments is a giant pain in the ass. (Assuming people don't "Name the fandom", and even so, I get annoyed when people don't put secret numbers in the comment titles >_<)

I actually prefer playing "Guess That Fandom!" and think it would wreck some of the fun of reading FS for me

Definitely like the idea, because it gets ridiculous with, "why don't people love this series" secrets and you have no clue what they are talking about!

Another idea is when they post the secret, commenting there with the fandom and you guys adding it below the image ...but that is more work for you (probably makes for prettier secrets though XD).

For revealing identities, I guess people could guess already, but if there is a true fear they could mention it again when they post and the mods can decide if they go ahead and post it (under a miscellany tag?) or reject the secret.

I like it because then it's easier for me to introduce myself to different fandoms when the secret piques my interest :)

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