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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-03 05:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #698 ]


⌈ Secret Post #698 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.
[The Crüxshadows]


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102.
[LotR, Merlin]


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103.
[Secret Saturdays, Marvel Comics]


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104.
[Soul Eater]


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105.
[Yotsuba&!]


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106.
[Transformers: Armada]


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107.
[Dresden Dolls]


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108. [repeat]


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109.
[Stephanie Meyer]


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110.
[Spoiler (DC), Edward (Twilight)]


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111.


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112.
[Knights of the Old Republic]


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113.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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114.
[December Boys]


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115.


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116.
[Ghost Hunters]


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117.
[Bloody Monday]


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118.
[Ranma 1/2]


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119.
[James Spader]


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120.


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121.
[Taylor Swift]


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122.


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123.


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124.
[Edward Norton]


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125.


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126.
[The Devil's Whore]


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127.


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128.


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129.
[Arthur]


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130.
[Gankutsuou]


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131. [repeat]


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132.


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133.
[Metal Gear Solid/"Let's Destroy Metal Gear!"]


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134.


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135.


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136.
[Supernatural]


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137.


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138.


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139.


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140.
[Assassins]


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141.
[Heroes]


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142.


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143.


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144.


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145.
[Evangelion]


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146.


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147.
[Gokusen]


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148.


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149.


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150.
[Left 4 Dead]


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151.


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152.


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153.
[Saw 5]


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154.


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155.


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156.


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157.


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158.
[Legally Blonde]


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159.
[Cobra Starship]


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160.
[Harry Potter]



Notes:

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Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 146 secrets from Secret Submission Post #100.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] llivla.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
109 Why can't this woman just GO AWAY ALREADY.

120 (BAWWW GILES. :C) I don't like what Dawn represents or her characterization prior or its development. It would have been -right- for her to die, because IMO Buffy was doing it for all the wrong reasons and ugh, I hate the writers for fucking it all up. While it's still the awesomest series of my life, I sort of want to have a time machine and shove the writers of Season 1-3 to go beat up 5-7. (lol, season 4 I'm sort of fenced on)

123 She's not a full-fledged lesbian though? She had canon sexual crushes on Xander, Giles, and was in love with Oz, and she definitely liked the sex. Like with her evil twin in doppleganger I found Willow bisexual. Or anything sexual. So long as it's not an evil robot.

[identity profile] bullet4fob.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
Buffy was doing it for all the wrong reasons

what do you mean? Buffy sacrificed herself because she had multiple prophetic dreams and a vision quest that informed her that it was her destiny to die in Dawn's place. and she never felt right about killing Dawn because it was the wrong thing to do. it was her destiny to die in that exact way, at that exact time.

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[identity profile] llivla.livejournal.com - 2008-12-05 23:11 (UTC) - Expand

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[identity profile] ryoflame.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I TOTALLY GET WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT.

Although I don't like Cable and Dom as much as other comic characters and thus don't know them AS well, I DO know them and CAN compare them and... omg, so perfect!

[identity profile] trustyoursins.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
110. I get weirded out because there are tons of honestly NOT HEALTHY RLY relationships in literature, even (or especially!) classical literature, and people seem to want to act like Twilight is the first, last, and Lucifer-grade WORST example of this. The explanation I've heard that makes sense is that Twilight is marketed as true, healthy love and is aimed at young teen girls, and even then it's kind of lame because from what I've heard, Edward is a pretty healthy relationship that a girl can have... WITH A MOTHERFUCKING VAMPIRE. XD;

Still, the argument that Spoiler isn't supposed to be amazing and perfect and wonderful and swoonworthy by definition, and Jacob is, may explain why a lot more people are willing to forgive her. I personally love twisted characters -- it's how they're presented that can occasionally make me raeg.

111. You are far, far, far from alone (http://community.livejournal.com/mac_hearts_pc). |D

113. Haha, I don't really have any ships like this, because I ship everything so usually I have a few open options where I'd be happy if a character ends up with any of several people. (Hallo Reborn, I don't care where you're headed Tsuna-romance-wise, I'm good with any of the gals; Keroro, whatever you do with Fuyuki-and-Momoka-and-Alisa, I shall be a happy clam!) I do actually have a few ships that I hope don't become canon, though, and that's a little embarrassing for me. I know how weird it feels to me is only because of my headcanon, but... the other (both other?) potential pairing/s in one case feel so, so much more right, balanced, and interesting than the more "normal" one, and I hope the series doesn't go there. >:

115. Aww, they're socute. :>

116. I'm pretty sure that, again, you're not the only one. I'm too lazy to check if there's a community, though. XD

118. MASTURBATION.

I mean uh. Carry on~

120. Actually, if you were Buffy, you would still die for Dawn. Because you would be thinking of her as a real person and your baby sister instead of as a character in a TV show. JUST SAYIN IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE INSIDE. :|b

123. Secret is hard to read, just to warn you (though people have already brought it up). I kind of get what you mean -- I have always loved Willow for just WILLOW'S PERSONALITYYYYYY, but I missed tech!geek!Willow lots, went >: at some of the magic plot (though yeah, I was supposed to XD), and honestly found Tara more... relatable? As a lesbian character. Though I loved Willow's character more. XD I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

126. DO IT. I don't see a bad thing in this secret at all. |D

127. I always thought they were late teens, because to me when I was little, that age seemed "grown up" but still... relatable. XD So I just assumed they were all, like, eighteen or so. What ages are they supposed to be, anyway?

[identity profile] trustyoursins.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
130. This is an incredibly sweet secret, d'aww. c:

132. You're not really given enough about Hamlet's relationship with Horatio or how they interact, sadly. I ship it! (And I'd love some good Hamlet/Ophelia + Hamlet/Horatio fic, where he's torn between the girl, his friend, and his duty.) But there is sadly no way to have that much support for it, canon-ly. JUST IN MY LITTLE BRAIN. *nods*

134. That would probably simply be because other people have different preferences than you when it comes to what makes a guy hot, and what makes someone funny. Don't worry about it too much, they just don't think the same.

137. ... AUGH WHY ARE YOU ASHAMED. WHY DID YOU FEEL THE NEED TO PUT THE QUALIFYING TEXT. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE MOVIE. T_T

139. If you have absolutely no respect for them, defriend them. Let them know. That way they know you're not their friend and won't be wasting their time with you. (And this is coming from someone who's on her side about all this, by the by!)

140. Having fun is having fun. Sometimes we need to let loose. c: Enjoy yourself, bb!

144. ... Can we all just agree to drop the stupid furfag label? Please?

Having said that, I totally agree with you. (I also ship him with characters -- well, at least one. Gasp horror I know.) BUT YES HE'S AMAZING sadly even if he was real he would probably give me the same irritated looks he gives Olivia and the singer/dancers in the bar. XD;

145. Win picture is TOTAL WIN, at least? *^* Nice shot, seriously.

147. I need to watch this series. :O

148. They probably won't unless they're not worth your time anyway. I used to be fully het, then mostly slash for a SHORT time, and now I ship pretty much everything without regard for the naughty bits. XD;

149. Oh, man, I loved the musical episode. Best songs ever. ;;;

151. I kinda have this automatic distaste for people who go "OH NO FANDOM WORKS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED BLARGH," too, OP. :/ I don't hate the works or the author, really, but I can't totally respect them. Way to put your fictional people over real people and decide that others aren't allowed to have fun.

I totally need to read those books, though.

153. God, the excessive violence and gore and hfkajfhas WILL MAKE ME SO UNCOMFORTABLE/SQUIRMY AUGH. But I still really want to see the first one just for the plot. I'm an English geek and the whole "DEATH/MURDER BY FATAL FLAW!" idea really pings me hard. Do want... but does it have to be so... yeah? XD;;

157. Sorry, but you're being more of a douche than the people who are worried about the state of the fandom, and I think they're being ridiculous. Any time you say "I hope this movie sucks just so that fans will be unhappy!" -- which is, yanno, why there is wank, because people are unhappy -- you're pulling a real asshole maneuver.

159. ... Wow, I'm sorry, but that was severely idiotic and mean of your mom. Seriously? "You can't make music because you're not American!"? What planet is that logic from?

160. I think the thing that people forget (and I would love to see more people mess around with in fic!) is that... yes, Ginny had a crush on Harry's fame before she even met Harry. She was like... what, eight? Nine? What do people really expect? Pretty much any girl would realistically have that response. Just because she started off having a crush on him because of that, doesn't mean that once she did meet him, got to know him more, she couldn't have switched to liking him for him. After all, it could easily be written that she lost interest in him after getting to know him better -- the allure of "omg a legend" wore off, he's just a boy, and while he's a friend she's just not into him anymore -- so why not the other way around? She realizes that he's not a legend, he is just a boy... and she really, really likes that boy?

Sorry to TL;DR, but while the pairing was handled not-so-well in the books, I'm sort of surprised that no one really thinks about things like this, and dismisses their first meeting as all there ever could be to their relationship. AND EXTRA NOTE, THAT PICTURE IS FREAKING ADORABLE. *A* ♥♥♥♥

not!fandom: ... what.

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Just because she started off having a crush on him because of that, doesn't mean that once she did meet him, got to know him more, she couldn't have switched to liking him for him.

I think most people in fandom know this, actually. The problem is that it's never shown to happen. Harry and Ginny don't spend time together, the don't have conversations, and they don't seem to have anything in common, until Ginny's character has a makeover in the fifth book.

re: 147

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re: 132

[identity profile] typhon-9.livejournal.com - 2008-12-05 18:26 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) 2008-12-04 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yyyyyeeeeessssssss....

I'm at least half his age. But man, he can get kinky with me anytime he wants.

Of course, I imagine that all of my celebrity crushes are a bit kinky. But it is easier with him, considering his work.

[identity profile] bioniccheese.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
111. THERE IS FANART. Seriously. Look it up on dA.

137. I really want to see this movie. :)

[identity profile] cosmic-evila.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
114. Aww, a December Boys secret! :) That's actually pretty adorable. Those four did have a very strong bond.

129. LOL!

111, 149

[identity profile] klmnumbers.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
111 - I loled so hard at that visual, btws.

149 - WAT. Lol I loved that episode. Joss writes pretty juvenile music, but that episode was fun and heart-breaking. I still get a little weepy when Spike calms her down at the end and his entire solo is just so tragic.

Re: 149

[identity profile] trustyoursins.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I knooooow. I loved it too, and it really was heartbreaking. Part of the fun for me was the fact that the music doesn't take itself seriously at pretty much any point, though. Maybe at the veeeery end, it gets more serious, but man. "THEY GOT~ THE MUSTARD~ OUUUUTTTTTTTTT," anyone? XD

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
113) I'm pretty sure I know you. You know, I've a feeling you might get your wish in one way: in the sense that they all platonically ride off into the sunset in the end. Unless Havoc either makes a noble sacrifice or else actually is the new Lust -- which if you are who I think you are, you might not mind the latter.

119) That is so totally a "come fuck me" pose.

112) Andreas' voice is just beautiful, and his character utterly charismatic.

126) Beards are sexy.

137) I loved Henry and Maude. It's such a beautiful, uplifting and funny romance.

148) It annoys the crap out of me when people try to turn their shipping into some grandiose statement about us and them and good and bad. Shipping is for fun, and if your friends can't accept that you are in a het mood right now, then they are retarded.

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(Anonymous) 2008-12-04 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Mine too.

104, 151, 160

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
104: I think it's the most boring, predictable choice possible. Main female/main male character? It's how it always ends. I want something more interesting. I'm hoping for Maka/Crona, and that Crona is a girl. They have wonderful chemistry, and lots of subtext already!

151: I agree SO MUCH with everything you said. Do you know what the first thing I did after finishing the trilogy was? I went online to see if everybody else thought the ending was as awful as I did. Turned out that most of them did haha. XD

As for forbidding fanfic, I think that's one of the wankiest and annoying things you can do as a writer. It will kill the fandom, and, which is detrimental to the author directly, lessen the fans interest in their work.

160: I could have written this! Well, apart from the epilogue growing on me; I still hate it. I can't deny its existence, however; seriously, now that the epilogue is written, I can't disregard it.

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[identity profile] missmayze.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, okay, sure...whatever. *rolls eyes*
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120, 135, 136, 149

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/taltos_/ 2008-12-04 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
120. I hated Dawn so much that I had a hard time even seeing Michelle Trachtenberg in anything else without wanting to stab my eyes out with a rusty fork.

135. HEH! It could have been worse.

136. While I'm not crazy about the correlation Kripke is trying to make with the Sam/Ruby, Dean/Anna pairings, I understand why he's doing it and what he might being trying to lead up to. Anna kind of annoyed me and it has nothing to do with her getting it on with Dean because I had no problem with Cassie or hell even with Jo. I didn't care for the message of Anna as a whole.

149. I've seen the musical about 6 times now, and after about the 3rd I actually started to like it. I think the key is multiple viewing, either that or sleep deprivation.


OP 136

(Anonymous) 2008-12-04 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
While I'm not crazy about the correlation Kripke is trying to make with the Sam/Ruby, Dean/Anna pairings, I understand why he's doing it and what he might being trying to lead up to.

Yeah, see... I already saw that correlation with Sam/Ruby and Dean/Castiel, and it's not like the latter has to be made canon or anything, it's just that one brother has an angel on his shoulder and the other has a demon. So it seems unnecessary to put Anna into that role, especially since Castiel was already an established character with an established relationship with Dean when she came around; it's not like Kripke needed to create a new character for that, if that's what he's aiming for.

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[identity profile] betterthanlegos.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
♥♥♥♥ Dom and Nate for the serious win.

I should watch that cartoon if that's the case 8D

Re: 103

[identity profile] nightingaledies.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 02:59 am (UTC)(link)

you should! hmm, maybe I'll put an episode for you on youtube or just clips of Drew and Doc because ew to their son.

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[identity profile] riveryklown.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! I've been thinking about that movie all day! (for some strange reason) I love Harold and Maude!

[identity profile] backinblackk.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
129. AHHHHH SO TRUE <3 And yeah, still watch that show. Was Arthur for Halloween. :)

[identity profile] twilightsocks.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
151. I'd never even heard of Robin Hobb until a friend of mine posted a link to her little anti-fanfic tantrum. Pissed me off so much that I've never touched any of her books. Shame, because they look interesting, but I just can't see my way to supporting an author with that attitude. (Especially when there's so much published fanfiction right there in the bookstore.) Sorry, bb; you're not that special. There are too many other -- and better -- authors out there who aren't so into themselves.
rydain: Vault Boy Winking (GTA Cao Ren)

[personal profile] rydain 2008-12-04 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Word.

I understand authors' annoyance at fans thinking they know the characters and canon better than the person who came up with them in the first place. It makes sense to me that Annie Proulx dislikes fan attempts to "fix" Brokeback Mountain with a happy ending. However, this is an issue of people failing to understand a work and thinking they know it better than those who created it in the first place.

The sort of blanket anti-fanfic horseflop that Hobb spewed was short-sighted, ignorant, and a failed attempt to draw lines in a huge gray area. She displayed little understanding of the concept of expanding upon pre-existing canon, let alone the creativity potential for well-done works of this nature.

I wonder if Ms. Hobby High Horse and people of her ilk would shit all over classic novel rewrites done from the point of view of a minor character. Or interpretations of older works in an alternate universe setting, such as West Side Story, which can be considered fan fiction of Romeo and Juliet. Let's not forget historical fiction that includes real people. Oops, there goes that pre-existing characterization again. Caleb Carr must not have an original thought in his head.

I also wonder what she thinks of Neil Gaiman, who re-imagined Snow White from the stepmother's point of view, or Timothy Zahn, known for his Star Wars novels as well as original fiction. And how about the artists and writers carrying on the stories of comic book characters, both in drawn and live action movie form, that were originally developed many years ago? They might be employed by the characters' copyright holders, but they're still working with someone else's original creation.

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[identity profile] morriganangelus.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
116 - Oh HALE no. Tango/Steve on the other hand....

Re: 155

[identity profile] wumpie.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
MTE!!

ilh so harddd, i was kinda upset when he got with Donna.

MARRY ME JLYMAN.

i'd be so much better for him than freakin Nancy Botwin

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(Anonymous) 2008-12-04 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
While I'd agree that pre-emptively bawling about how new fans will "ruin" the fandom, I'd disagree that there's no cause to believe that the fandom will grow because of the movie. On my friendslist alone I've got five people who didn't even know what Watchmen was before the trailer was released who are now writing Watchmen slash. These are people I tried to get to read it ages ago and brushed it off as "not [their] thing." So yes, new fans have already embraced it and started writing. Whether the movie succeeds in theaters is almost a moot point.

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[identity profile] plus1fan89.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
158: Elle Woods wins at life. She is my hero. <3

105

[identity profile] bunnyfishmeljel.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yesyesyes!
I'm already grown up, but I want to be able to find happiness in anything, too! ;3;

[identity profile] willow-diamond.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
115: dude I am all over the Elle/Claire :) love it.

116. omg a GH secret! awesome!

125. I love his twitter ♥

134. I AGREE OMG.

138. LOOL. Hellboy secret ftw!

139. I agree.

141. if only. *sigh*

157. wot

(Anonymous) 2008-12-04 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Love the icon. You know the song Kids With Guns? Yeah, I got that song stuck in my head when I saw it, but in my head it goes "Liz with guns" and now I feel odd.
ext_386190: little bird (luke)

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[identity profile] hey-feygele.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently so does (http://community.livejournal.com/mac_hearts_pc/96771.html) Topanga from Boy Meets World.

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[identity profile] aliquot.livejournal.com 2008-12-04 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. I listen to that song when I work out and it makes me want to keep going.

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