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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-12 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #4907 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4907 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Portrait de la Jeune Fille en Feu]


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07. [SPOILERS for She-Ra season 5]



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08. [SPOILERS for The Untamed]



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09. [WARNING for racism, police brutality]



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[personal profile] fscom 2020-06-12 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
09. [WARNING for racism, police brutality]
https://i.imgur.com/MWtY99W.png

(Anonymous) 2020-06-12 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
the implication that fs is the police state is making me lol a little bit sorry

(Anonymous) 2020-06-12 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody has any business policing your legal, nondestructive coping mechanisms.

Sticking ones head in the sand is avoiding all knowledge of the problem, refusing to acknowledge there is a problem, and neglecting to offer any support when support is needed and providing it is well within your ability.

Not wanting to think about the problem every hour of the day is not sticking ones head in the sand. It’s being human.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Counterpoint: OP seems to want to not engage with it at ANY point, if I read this right?

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Counter-counterpoint: OP specifies not being American, and while police brutality is not solely an American problem, the bulk of the current push is towards changing the American hyper-militarized police system in specific, and there's only so much people from another country entirely actually can meaningfully engage with that.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Not AYRT but the only way that really absolves OP is if you assume that because OP is not American, OP has no American friends or acquaintances affected by this then, especially no POC friends, and sticks solely to having white internet friends of their own country

Which... probably inaccurate.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
"sticks solely to having white internet friends of their own country"

This would absolve OP of nothing.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Lol I mean yeah that would be an interestingly red flag on its own but I'm just trying to point out the "counter-counterpoint" doesn't work unless you assume OP lives in a bubble.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
"Absolves". Jesus Christ, you're ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Lol, why?

Wasn't absolution the point of the comment I'm replying to? That's what I brought that up. I don't really care what OP does, I'm just pointing out the "counter-counterpoint" doesn't work in a logical sense unless AIRT was assuming OP lives in a bubble.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding this. OP, as far as we know, has nothing they need to be "absolved" for. Unless not single-handedly fixing racism in America is something one requires absolution for now.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
How is it unlikely for a person from any given country in the world not to have American friends? Not everyone is capable of maintaining online friendships with people from vastly different time zones. Hell, not everyone is capable of making online friends, period.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
And then there are people like me who are chronic lurkers and don't have any internet friends at all. Does that mean I get your permission to completely disengage from this subject, oh supercilious anon?

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I get it. A big part of police procedurals is the appeal of justice being done at the end of the story (or mostly done). The crime being solved efficiently is satisfying because it doesn't work that way in real life. Justice is satisfying and cathartic. We all know real cases drag out and take years and the whole process sucks balls.

CSI isn't like real crime solving either, really. SVU doesn't clear rapes in a week.


Plus, that aside, we grow to like the characters and their interactions with each other, which isn't just reliant on their profession.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-06-13 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I used to like some of them. Specifically Criminal Minds mostly and Castle. I've gone off them myself, but that cathartic justice feeling was the draw when I did like them. Actually, come to think of it, that sort of thing might be a common thread between the more realistic stuff I liked and the fantasy/scifi stuff I like. Feel good, justice done, people saved kinds of things.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Do what you need to do to take care of yourself and your mental health, anon. Being worried about systematic racism is all well and good, but you can't help anyone if you've had a nervous breakdown.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-06-13 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
What Anon above said - you're aware of it, you know it exists.
You DO NOT have to deal with it in your 'happy place' of the internet, fandom, fic, or entertainment-watching.

You do what you need to to be healthy.

I refuse to watch a lot of that stuff, too - it's fucking depressing. I marched and contributed in our very small town's BLM protest, I sign petitions and make phone calls. When i get online (other than Twitter)?

It's all gay porn and pretty boys and adventures in space.

+1

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I feel you. In the last few years I've stopped watching anything that isn't fluffy/happy/escapist. Right now my fandom has a sudden influx of fic with one of my favorite tropes, and it's giving me one small thing to be happy about amidst everything that's going on. (And I'm in a hotspot for both the pandemic and the protests.)

Let the fun entertainment recharge you, and then try to use that energy to do something, no matter how small, to help your community, whatever that may be.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I know what you mean. It's been too much. Like if you don't post something positive about the movement or donate or whatever then you are made to feel like a bad person, or you need to see the chaos erupting just because. Try to imagine this: if the pandemic had not happened, do you think people would have marched for this cause or come out as crazily as they did? Don't let them get you down if you can. Stay off of social media, read a book you like, or download a fic you like and read it offline. Anything to get away from all this stuff right now.



Hey if people want to police us and/or bully people or shun them into leaving that's their prerogative. There's a reason why this place is slowly cannibalizing itself. In many ways it's basically just another echo chamber like many other social media sites are. Try not to take it too personally. : ( People suck sometimes, but I hope you can start to enjoy your fandoms again soon. I'm already seeing people start to back off or move back into their old stuff, so maybe just enjoy content on your own away from social media for a while.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
I want to talk about it. But I don't want that to be all I see and talk about 24/7. People think "I have to talk about this, it's important" but then another bad thing happens, and then another thing, and people get angry if you seem to be paying more attention to one issue than another. So you start trying to give them all equal time. Suddenly, issues in the news are all you're talking about. If talking about the news becomes basically your second job, it starts to wear you out, as you start to feel surrounded by unsolvable horrible problems that never stop coming which you, personally, are required to at least weigh in on. Everything else has to stop so you can do this. But life doesn't stop just because bad things have happened (in particular, the type of bad things which happen every day all over the world for centuries that one person giving up things they enjoy will not fix).

(Anonymous) 2020-06-13 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I do kind of resent the pressure to post about things I can't do shit about.

I vote against oppression, but I can't afford to donate to every cause that asks, either.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-06-13 11:09 am (UTC)(link)
I can't tell if you're watching your country's procedurals or ones from the US but i think the problem people have with them is that in them, cops are still shitty, but framed as heroic. this lessened my enjoyment of them even when i did watch them. either your media doesn't have that or you have an amazing ability to disassociate.

Anyway, do what you can for racism in your country, don't overextend your mental health, and if the whole really is a lot for you, that's understandable it's weird as hell rn, but you also might want extra support from a therapist if that's available to you.

As far as ethical judgment...well it's complicated with mental health but as long as you're not projecting fake support while intending on doing nothing else, like a lot of instagrammers, then you're ahead of the game!

(Anonymous) 2020-06-14 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Just a FYI (not OP or anything but can relate,) I don't watch anything with cops in it. Actually, most of my fandoms are Japanese and races are seldom an issue. So when people in fandom-related "safe spaces" start talking about it, I'm afraid I don't have much to add. Perhaps I never watched a cop show precisely because I was never into it. Anyway, my point being, people do have different experiences and, as someone who lives outside the US, yes, it's true that cops aren't the same in every place just like not every place is that racist. (Trust me when I say the US is pretty racist.) So, sometimes it's really an issue that people who don't have a lot of knowledge on the US (as a local should and most don't) can't say a lot about it.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-06-14 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I don't know which part of the comment you're replying to, but yeah I think if you're in a different country or watch different media that's going to make a difference. that said sketchy law enforcement and racism is everywhere regardless of intensity or breadth, so i don't think that means people can't investigate their own countries.