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[ SECRET POST #5297 ]

⌈ Secret Post #5297 ⌋

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Meh. It's never going to be completely true to the universe because it was as much Terry Pratchett's story as Gaiman's. It's not entitled to feel disappointed in that front I think. This seems like making it a cash cow and disrespectful to Sir Terry's legacy, especially after Neil Gaiman made so much noise about wanting to keep it true to the books in his memory.

Still, I know there are loads of people out there who are excited so I'm just going to walk away and ignore its existence.

I mean, others are as free to roll their eyes at flouncers as the flouncers are to flounce. But the majority of entitled GO headcanoners I've personally seen after the original GO release have been of the "C & A are supposed to be technically genderless and don't ever imply that they're physically banging like bunnies? HOMOPHOBIA they 100% ARE cis gay men and the showrunners are COWARDS for not going OTT making them be that."

I'm mostly annoyed that apparently *everything* that's successful gets a (not initially planned for) sequel/season 2 these days even if one season/movie works as a perfectly fine standalone. (I mean, I know money yadda yadda yadda... I'm not saying it doesn't make any sense, I'm just annoyed by it.)

At the end of the day I only watched the show once, despite loving the book so I'm not super invested and hope the people who want to enjoy it, will enjoy it. Time to block the Good Omen tags on tumblr again, though.

I agree 100%. Annoyed that Edge of Tomorrow is getting a sequel. It doesn't need one, and I think a sequel might retroactively make it worse.

My Dad and I refer to things like this as pulling an 'Under the Dome'. You could tell the moment they found out about the successful ratings because all the sudden they stopped their storyline and threw a bunch of random stuff to draw it out. And consequently ruined it.

Mainly following fan artists has kept me a bit ignorant to what's going on in the fandom in terms of drama lol.

I'm only concerned about the potential hissy fit people are going to throw if it doesn't turn out to be 'gay enough' since people were accusing the first series of being queer bait (even though that term wouldn't really fit for Good Omens, it doesn't stop people from using it in every situation when their ship don't get together).

Queerbait lmaoooo agender beings in romantic but probably asexual love isn't fucking queerbait it's just queer. My personal opinion is that most of the people who were mad about the supposed queerbaiting were actually just mad that there wasn't any of teh hot m/m sexxors they fantasized about displayed onscreen.

Lol YES I know right?? There was a youtuber I had followed who specialized in fandom shipping from a bi POV which was pretty interesting until he got to Good Omens and complained about it not really being gay enough because they didn't kiss (he didn't dismiss it completely, but a chunk of it had me eye-rolling and notice that it's all LGBTQ representation until the possibility of Trans/nonbinary and/or asexual characters come up then itsa suddenly h o m o p h o b i c).

"You go too fast for me" is a loaded as fuck statement and only makes sense from a queer angle.

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>No Fear
>The Good Omens fandom convincing themselves A&C will be a canon romantic couple and kiss on-screen
>One Fear

As much as I love the source material, the characters and the shipping I just can't see it happening on the TV series, it comes across as people setting themselves up for a massive disappointment and/or endless flame wars.

I'm a much bigger fan of the show than the book (sorry, book fans), so I'm super excited to see what a second season will be like. Luckily, I don't follow anybody who would harsh my squee.

I feel like one part of this secret (the objection to/wariness of a second season) doesn't necessarily link to the other (entitlement about headcanons). Surely it's possible to have one or the other, neither or both, so it basically seems like OP wants to complain about the latter and is using the former as some sort of justification or support to show how ~reasonable they are. *shrug*

Remember when the first season was announced and the exact same whining and complaining happened? Most of it came from the same people who threw fits about headcanon shit not being canon.

I agree, this secret is really more like two secrets thinly welded together. It's hard to respond to because it's like, "If we're talking about [x] people who do [a] then [yada yada], but if we're talking about [x] people who don't do [a] then [yada yada], but we could also be talking about [not x] people who do [a] in which case [yada yada]."

The two claims the secret is making aren't entirely unrelated, but they're nowhere near inherently related, either.

I have rarely seen a continuation of derivative media (i.e. not an adaptation of the sequels of the original medium) be as good as or better than the original medium or it's first adaptation, unless the first derivation was barely an adaptation to begin with. I think, even though Neil says he and Terry had an outline of a sequel ready to go, that it makes sense to be wary.

The fandom is a different matter imo, and I don't think wariness of the second season is actually evidence, but yes they were entitled to begin with.

Personally I'm not pleased about the sequel because I don't like Neil Gaiman's writing style at all, likely enjoyed the book largely due to Pratchett's influence, and most of what I disliked about the original series was Gaiman's original additions which were all in his very annoying style (including twee OOC dropping of Tori Amos lyrics which would be eye rolling if it happened in a fanfic and is even worse when the canon writer does it). If it had been Neil Gaiman's Good Omens I would never have gotten through the book in the first place, so forgive me if I'm annoyed to see him ruin something I love further.

Also the other big reason I'm not enthused, is there literally any case where a single book was turned into multiple seasons of TV that didn't completely fall apart and start to suck once they ran out of canon material? Considering the wreck American Gods turned into I'm not optimistic for GO.

Yeah, I feel like if STP & NG had a good idea for a sequel they would have written that sequel.

I don't hate Gaiman's writing and actually I own a lot of his books, but between him and Pratchett there's no contest, I love almost all Pratchett's work and like some of Gaiman's. Unless GO2 ends up being as big a travesty as the BBC Watch series, I'll probably watch it, but I'm not super excited.

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I've ever liked anything by Gaiman, but I love Pratchett, so I'm 100% sure my love of GO the book is because of the latter. That Pratchett wasn't around to influence the TV-show but Gaiman was without anyone reining him in, really shows.

What in the world could a second season be about? They told the story. Seems weird.

That's what I wondered, too. I probably won't bother watching at any rate, outside of Sheen and Tennant, I didn't enjoy the first season.

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I wasn't thrilled to hear about a second season because the first one ended so beautifully. It's so rare for shows to have a satisfying, happy ending and it meant so much to me. I didn't want any more "canon" to shatter that.

However, as a huge John Finnemore fan, as soon as I saw he was cowriting a lot of my trepidation dissolved. John is wonderful with character development and an astute judge of human nature, as well as being very funny. I'm counting on him to make it worth it.

John Finnemore made me waver in my nonenthusiasm as well! Like, on one hand, I'm still annoyed that they're continuing a story that was wrapped up in such a satisfying way and where one half of the original writing team passed away, but on the other hand I really want it to be amazing so that more people know about and appreciate just how much of a comedic genius Finnemore is!

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I'm excited for a second season but I'm already dreading the Discourse. Whatever happens, someone's going to be unhappy that their personal headcanon or representation didn't play out as they wanted it to. My corner of fandom has always been pretty chill, but Tumblr was a disaster in this regard over season 1.

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