[ SECRET POST #5611 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5611 ⌋

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh man, same. Sure, it's interesting to consider that things aren't all black and white, but someone can be evil AND have a tragic past that doesn't justify them being a bastard now.

[(Anonymous)]

Right? Like IRL people are always 'well bullying in the past doesn't justify [x] action now!!' but they seem to forget that when writing villains.

[tabaqui]

I don't even think they 'justified' Cruella. I mean - she kidnaps puppies for their coats. That's not justifiable. But yes - can't some people just be bastards (without weird/pervy/sadistic overtones)?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yes, I hope if they ever actually do an Ursula (from The Little Mermaid) movie, they keep her as gleefully villainous as ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Part of the problem with that is that most villains are the heroes of their own stories. They don't see themselves as evil.

[(Anonymous)]

I notice this mostly with all-age films, because we can't have faith that kids won't imitate/get the wrong lesson and assume they'll grow up to be terrible people. Like I saw the trailer for that Bad Guys movie and the minute the main character states he wanted to be a good guy, I immediately lost all interest. Man, we could have just had an awesome Ocean's 1

[(Anonymous)]

*obligatory mention of Hannibal TV show* He is TERRIBLE, there is NO justification, and it's SO compelling.

[meadowphoenix]

I think producers have a very limited view of what makes a protagonist compelling to a viewer, hero or villain, and this is exacerbated by media which already tries to curb ethical nuance.

That said your examples are literally derivative, as in off-canon even for the disney properties, so they're not really villains in those media to begin with.

To be quite frank, villain protagonists are actually very hard to write. You either get something like Humphrey Humphrey which was pointedly about people not recognizing villains if they are protagonist, or horror where the point is that there are no heroes like in Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde or Frankenstein.

eta: the anon above me mentions Hannibal (who is very compelling) but that's not actually about Hannibal, that's about how Will, the actual protagonist, is drawn to Hannibal, who at best is a deuteragonist, but is frankly an antagonist.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree.

Came out of this movie shipping Cruella/Jasper bc they have a fucked up dynamic that I know Disney isn't really going to delve into, but what they did show hit all the right notes for me.

[(Anonymous)]

The worst part about it, to me, is that they gave Cruella her own Cruella. Like, make the movie about Anita and Cruella's friendship before Anita and Roger hook up. Let bad guys be bad guys, don't give me lame backstories like "Dalmatians pushed my mom off a cliff."

[(Anonymous)]

Watch biopics of rl dictators and mass-murderers?

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[(Anonymous)]

I'll be honest, my fic in Narnia had little to do with Narnia (except maybe some politics) and much to do with Caspian (although I did make a whole backstory for my OC, including expanding the map of the known world lol and warring tribes of ethnically diverse people). Sorry :( although what you're mentioning does sound really interesting!

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[(Anonymous)]

Good for him! I didn't know this, and he was my childhood Doctor Who.

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[(Anonymous)]

I love Maven of the Eventide!!!!!!!!!!

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[tabaqui]

Awww.
*hugs*
I miss my dad, too, OP.

(Space 1999!!)

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I was reading this series called A Tribe of One, and it keeps pausing for a page or two to tell you what things are. Like, this is the part of the market where the tame animals are sold. Here’s every kind of animal they sell and what it’s used for. And the MC isn’t even buying an animal; it’s just there because the author thought you’d want to know.

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Celebrate minor achievements.

[(Anonymous)]

Celebrate the little things which have kept you going this week.

For me, I managed a whole five push ups. I know it isn't much, but it is a huge milestone on my physical rehab. For a while I never dreamed I'd be capable of doing even that again, so it is a huge thing for me.

Share yours here.

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