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⌈ Secret Post #6304 ⌋

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To be honest, AO3 isn't really built for crossovers.
Of course its optional and helps if you have a really specific crossover in mind when looking through the tags - but I think that the popularity of crossovers was helped by the layout of FFnet, back when you had a whole section dedicated to crossovers and if you looked up your current fandom you could see the list of other fandoms that had works written up for it.

Yet another strike against AO3.

I look forward to not reading the replies trying ti justify it, or calling me a troll for having an unpopular opinion. Sorry, call-out Anon, but you go do you.

*sigh* I'm not saying that a single flaw being pointed out means that AO3 is useless.

Its great for everything else. Its perfect for explicit fics, the tagging system, excluding tags you don't want to see, the way you can write an edit fics on AO3 and so much more.

I just mean that its not made for looking through crossovers. MAYBE someday that might be a thing they do since AO3 has added things to improve the site over the years so who knows!

If I ever dare say anything remotely negative about AO3 again in future, I'll be sure to copy and paste some praises about the site just to keep your antsy ass happy anon.

80% sure this is the "AO3 is child porn" anon. They're being daring tonight in jumping in for a different gripe with AO3 rather than their usual troll.

(AO3 DOES have a "show only crossovers" and robust search system that makes it relatively easy to find crossovers, but I'll agree that lumping crossovers and non-crossovers together means that finding them requires a few more steps, esp for rare crossovers)

ayrt - ohh that makes the comment make sense for me, so ty. I honestly hadn't made the connection and the comment seemed so random.

Really?

Considering all the criticism AO3 has gotten over the years - me pointing out that its not built for listing crossovers (unless you find great joy in wading through all those 50+ tagged fandoms full of one sentence stories collections); and just wishing that AO3 had a similar page that worked the same way as the one on FFnet - is up there with the 'Ao3 is child porn' anon???

Dude, AO3 gets updated all the time and sometimes adds functions to it. and I look forward to those functions - unless they suck, which I guess they never do since you believe that AO3 can do no wrong and must be an evil anti in some way.

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Donating another $20 in your name to Ao3. ('-')7

Donated for the first time this year! Both because I finally have a little extra to do so, and becaise all the trolls motivated me.

After what happened to wattpad I think you won't be alone in finding new motivation to keep AO3 going! (and also, I know we are anonymous probably-strangers on the internet, but I'm happy to hear that you're in a place where you've got some extra cushion!)

From the anon getting accused of hating on AO3 for wanting a better search function for crossovers - I thank you! I want AO3 to keep improving their site :)

Fuck off, you sanctimonious ass.

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AO3 is fine for crossovers. You can even specify multifandoms not just 2. You can tag for fusions. You can search for multiple fandoms and add tag searches like fusions.
And readers can choose to exclude crossovers so nobody gets angry about finding crossovers in their single fandom search.

but...it is? at least, it's not built to discourage them.

in the taskbar for filtering searches, you can literally toggle include/exclude crossovers. you can add "crossover" as a tag to your search. I dislike them so I always exclude them but you can find them pretty easily even without having a specific canon/canon itch to add to your tag search. I honestly wish I could do more than just "exclude crossovers" because I dislike them so much and yet they're always popping up in my regular searches.

You know what, this is what I get for not over-elaborating on how I would like to see a listing of ALL the crossovers on AO3 the same way FFnet had for their crossover section.

I would actually like to see all the listing of fandoms by titles on AO3 instead of going through pages of random fics under the crossover label (and to be able to pick out specific fandoms instead of only being able to choose from the 5 most popular fandoms that get listed in the search feature).

Actually - do the AO3 team take suggestions like this or would it be something that would fuck over the site too much for it to be worth something so specific?

and to be able to pick out specific fandoms instead of only being able to choose from the 5 most popular fandoms that get listed in the search feature

You can do this, you just type the fandom name in and select it.

Over the top explanation time:

AO3 is GREAT when you want a specific fandom and to find ANOTHER specific fandom to see if TWO OR MORE other fandoms have been written about.

Example for AO3- I am looking through Avengers fics. There is no way to know What fandom's have been written unless they are the top 5 most popular fandoms LISTED IN THE SEARCH BOX; which means anything less popular than those fandoms are NOT listed.
I can exclude or only include crossovers, which is great if I want to read every crossover ever written about on AO3 and can exclude the specific ones I don't want to read. I love this function.
But if I'm in a fandom that uses multiple crossovers that are connected with a certain fandom, i would have to go through every combination of crossovers since there is no 'can include but doesn't have to' option
Like: I would like to read any Avengers crossovers with LOTRs OR X-men. The choices are to either seek specifically Avengers + LOTRs or fics that consist of all three fandom's. It can be done be its extra steps and extra typing which is great if you enjoy doing that.

FFnet: is a dogshit site for fanfiction. Gotta put that there in case someone on here intentionally misunderstands that liking ONE particular function does not mean that I think FFnet is better than AO3.

Anyways - FFnet has a section dedicated to crossovers. I click on it an go to the Avengers fandom. Instead of needing to have a fandom in mind (which is great on AO3 when you specifically want a specific fandom), I see a list of EVERY fandom that has ever been crossed over instead of just the most popular five or having to wade through all the fanfics with 50+ fandom's, long summaries, long list of tags and click through every page instead of just seeing the listed fandom's on one page.
I can find fandom's I never thought to look up. I can be surprised or amused at the random crossovers like the one fic crossing the care bears over with Lord of the Rings.
I use to check the crossover section on FFnet and therefore use to read more crossovers.
AO3 is a fantastic site for fanfics with hardly any flaws or problems with their very excellent search function. I also don't read as much crossovers unless I just happen to stumble on a fic or have to go out my way to write all the fandom's that I would like to see.

Admittedly this us such a tiny problem that isn't really a problem - just a 'huh I use to read more crossovers because of the FFnet layout that AO3 doesn't have' and if you fandom is small enough on AO3 it probably is very easy to find crossovers on there.
I just made a comment that I didn't think to add a long explanation to while forgetting that its wrong to say anything considered bad about AO3 on here, even if its just to point out that it doesn't have a crossover section like FFnet does.

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The problem with finding crossovers is that in fandoms like the Untamed author's tag Untamed TV with Untamed novels so it's not actually a crossover. You can exclude non crossovers but in fandoms like Untamed, DCU, Marvel it's incredibly difficult to find actual two different fandom crossovers. Mostly because of the sheer volume of works in these fandoms.

For whatever fandom/tag/author, if you go to the Sort and Filter sidebar, under More Options, in the Crossovers pull down, you can tick 'Show only crossovers'. Or you can go to Search, Works, and in the Work Search form, under Crossovers, tick 'Only crossovers' and look through the ~1.17 million works. Some aren't true crossovers.

Will it show listing of fandoms that are crossed over with a specific fandom, or just list all the fics?

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If you go to the page of the specific fandom first (or pairing tag, etc.) and then use the search filters there, it only shows crossovers within this specific fandom. If you're looking for crossovers with a specific second fandom that's not in the suggested filter options, you can type the second fandom tag into the Additional Tags field and add it as a filter there.

ayrt

If you're in that fandom tag, do the first and that will get you crossovers with that fandom. If you go to AO3 and pick a fandom (Les Misérables - All Media Types, for example) and click on that, there will be the listing of all the fics tagged with that fandom, go to the sidebar, tick the 'Show only crossovers' and click the Sort and Filter button. That will give you all the fics tagged with the fandom you chose but also tagged with at least one other fandom. There are also tags for crossovers (Crossover, Crossover Pairings, Crossovers & Fandom Fusions), but not everyone uses them (and sometimes they use one of these tags and don't tag the other fandom).

ooooh - ok I see why people think I'm an idiot.

So fandoms like Star Trek and Les Miz have All media types. In my time on AO3, most of my multi-fandom fandoms have not had that listing - such as right now I'm in the Markiplier choose your own adventure series fandoms which has 4 fandoms and a lot of the earlier works fall under the Youtube RPF tag (even though those certain fics aren't technically RPF but are fictional characters connected to the youtuber); so there isn't an all media types tag for them (possibly because there's not enough fics? IDK what qualifies or if its down to the tagging wranglers).

I still would like to see a listing of all the crossovers for curiosity sake, but of course I do like that I can find specific crossovers if I ever think to look for them.

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Am I missing something? If I go to a fandom page, then filter for "complete" and "only crossovers" -- Bingo! I thought if the author listed two (or more) fandoms, the fic was automatically classed as crossover, even if the author didn't specifically tag it that way. Is there a trick that would make finding crossovers easier?

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