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[ SECRET POST #092 ]

⌈ Secret Post #092 ⌋

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So there's no tolerance besides 100% support?

I'm sorry, just things you'n your friend are saying make it sound that way.

Maybe I need to rethink myself, I've never been accused of being intolerant before when I was like "hey let everyone do their own thing."

You're doing it wrong, son. You're either with them or against them. Make your choice, there's no middle ground.

BISEXUALS DONT EXIST

D: D: D: WHERE WILL WE GO?!

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But all you said was No, so it's hard to deceifer what point you were trying to make O_o

Was it really that hard to "decipher" what point she was trying to make? o__O

If someone said something, and someone else disagreed with it, i'd want to know the reason why 8D You can't really understand a persons point of view from the word 'no', and if you can, your brain power exceeds any humans then.

The person said "because if you're writing fiction about homosexual characters, there's tolerance towards it, right?"

They asked "right?" at the end.

Sugartits replied with "no."

Because it is not right. Kentaro Miura in Berserk writes about rape, doesn't mean he tolerates it. I've written incest and paedophilia, it doesn't mean i advocate it, etc. etc.

But she highlighted what she disagreed with, and the reason why/her point of view has been stated MANY times in this post. @_@ I guess my "brain power exceeds any humans", then, because I didn't think it was that cryptic. :/

SORRYYY~ i hadn't read the comments above, so i was slow on the uptake~

Maybe it was just the way I read that secret.

Like, I read that as "I like fictional gay characters, but real gay people, I don't find all that great. I wish more real gay people were like gay characters, or I could meet some that were like them in real life."

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Well, I figured

"I write slash" = I like fictional gay characters
"I hate gay people" = but I hate the gay people I've met IRL so far

But then, I'm an optimist and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt all the time.

Well, I figured

"I write slash"=I write slash
"I hate gay people" =I hate gay people

I'm a retardist, I like to think people are retards all of the time.

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ew-younerd.livejournal.com - 2007-04-07 23:40 (UTC) - Expand

I didn't read it like that. I can write about a murderer or a drug addict and still really hate murderers (even if I make it a cool character) and dislike drug addicts. You don't have to like what you write or draw.

That's retarded.

Does anyone know what fundamental attribution error is here? Or cognitive bias? Anyone?

Does she know who and what 'real gay people' are? Homosexuality is a sexual preference, it is not a personality trait. You can be campy and feminine and heterosexual. It just stands out when a gay man is because of what TV has raped into our heads.

http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/29452.html?thread=2138380#t2138380

what the fuck?

way to go to project onto text that really leaves NO ROOM for creative interpretation.

ROFL

If you're like "I hate/dislike/am afraid of gay people but whatever, they can do what they want, I won't stop them, they can be on my tv shows and my neighbours and that, but... they're *so* going to hell/They are *so* gross and disgusting and perverted/they really creep me out" then yes, that's not tolerance. Not that I'm saying you think that, that's just an example.

*s-secretly fangirls*

Ah good I see you did understand what I meant. :) Yay.
I wonder what would happen if I said "I tolerate asians" or something. *sigh*

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Well you shouldn't get them leaping to your defense. You CAN write black characters and hate black people as well, but that doesn't make you less racist, same as you can write gay characters and still be homophobic and hate them in real life. And that's not a good thing.
No one would suddenly start saying "Oh I see what she's saying here, she's saying that she hates black men walking around wearing lots of bling and joining gangs! I hate that too!!!" and people saying "gosh can't she express a hatred without everyone jumping on them! There's apparently no middle ground!" and talking about how they 'tolerate' black people but they're no racist...