[ SECRET POST #6313 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6313 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

don't care

[(Anonymous)]

Cared enough to post, so you do care. You just don't want others to care.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't care

[(Anonymous)]

TBH, OP raises a valid point.
The counter to this argument is often that people need the money, but nobody ever seems to ask why do you need to profit from a hobby in the first place and what it implies about the current state of things.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, we all need money to live, though?

I don't care for people monetizing a free hobby either.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought things were all hunkydory?

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. These days there are a million and one different ways to make money from home on your own time that don't involve fandom at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay.

Get used to way less free fanworks, then. Much less covers, much less video essays, much less fanart, etc. People just won't have the time to do it.

[(Anonymous)]

You were never entitled to people's times beforehand, tbh, and free fanworks aren't going away. People still make then, if anything, we have a lot more access to it now than before.

[(Anonymous)]

For the record, I'm talking about how cost of living increased but wages didn't and hustle culture escaped containment, encouraging people to monetize every idle moment of their lives. I'm not lamenting people making money off their hobby, rather the fact they were driven to in the first place.

[(Anonymous)]

tHeY ShOuLd jUsT GeT AnOtHeR JoB.

A few people on here think that everything is going swell with the world and anyone who needs extra money should just uproot their lives and get one of those "better" jobs just floating free for the taking...somewhere. I've yet to figure that part out. I'm sure they'll be right over here to shame me for calling them out on their hypocritical bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

This isn’t anything new and I’ve honestly never cared. But I do dislike that fandom is so visible now.

[(Anonymous)]

same 100%. i never minded people making a profit out of their love for fandom, but now everything is so visible and commercialized and there is this implicit pressure to monetize everything you share online...

i do fanarts and sometimes people ask me if I'm available for commissions and, while flattering, i hate that because NOPE, never going to happen. all my fanworks are free for everyone. If you send me a suggestion and I happen to like it, I'm going to do it and share it for free. otherwise, NAH. I don't even ask for credits if my stuff is reposted. it's fandom stuff, I don't own the characters and blablablah. I prefer them to be underground and hidden from people outside of fandom.
i do commission only for original works from another fandom unrelated account and that's OK for me. i monetize my hobby, too, but monetizing fandom stuff always seem so wrong to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Genuinely understand the frustration, tbh. But I never cared. Many people are struggling, and it's not many people who are willing to buy new original stuff (outside the furry fandom and alike.) If you got people who are willing to pay you to write about their fave or buy something like a keychain of then, and need the money....

Besides, imo, beats buying dry official merch at times.

[(Anonymous)]

it's not many people who are willing to buy new original stuff

Completely untrue. I have one friend who makes a lot of money doing pet portraits and another friend who sells original fantasy-style art and also does commissions of people's tabletop characters. There's very much a large market out there for that kind of thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Good for them.
All this cry babying about turning your hobby into a viable income, something that is really nobody's business, is really just one of two things. It's jealousy because the people complaining know they could never make money off their fanfiction because the interest isn't there. So why should anyone one else? Or it's entitlement because you know if it catches on, you'll get access to less free content. But piracy will always exist so this seems like an unnecessary worry.
And the arguments that claims it will bring the wrath of copyright holders down upon all of us and kill fanfiction: No, it fucking won't. If that were the case, fanart would have died out decades ago. And everyone seems to forget the fanfiction that was published in old magazines that people HAD TO PAY FOR. Just shut the fuck up. You sound stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're talking about two different things here.

Certainly, it's "nobody's business" if you profit off of a hobby. (Except maybe the IRS, and that's a whole different ball game.)

It becomes someone's business when you're profiting off of someone's original creation (excluding public domain works). Of course you contributed your own idea and work, but you weren't authorized to base those things on the original creation, and you weren't authorized to profit off of it either.

I'm not sure why you think jealousy and entitlement to free work are the only reasons someone would be against this.

And the older I get, the less I get complacent about how things were in the past. Just because nobody did a cease-and-desist back when fandom was more underground doesn't mean they aren't thinking about it now as fanworks become more known. Obviously, I'm not saying what will happen either way. I'm just saying it's easy to say something would never happen until it does.

[(Anonymous)]

former fanzine publisher here. They paid to cover the production and postage. There was no money in this labour of love.

[(Anonymous)]

Profiting is making excess money. Most fanzines were (and are, if done properly) barely breaking even because the money they get paid has been advanced from their own personal funds to even be able to print the zines. That's why pre-orders are such a big thing now- so fanzine publishers don't lose out on massive amounts of money.
And most fanzines nowadays that do get excess money are doing it for charity.

[(Anonymous)]

You're an idiot.

[feotakahari]

I don’t moralize over it. If you can make a living off it, it’s less wasteful and contributes more to the world than some office jobs.

[(Anonymous)]

As expected people are going at you but I agree. I don't exactly care if you steal from the Mouse but selling your fanart/fic/etc is still stealing. And I do care when it happens to indie creators. So you are struggling fan? Do you think they are not?
Also I don't exactly care if people sell their fandom craft once in a while. But doing it for a living? What the point of a hobby when?

[(Anonymous)]

I especially side eye it when people make content of popular franchises when they were asked not to like the Baldur's Gate 3 fandom for example. Going against the creators' wishes while profiting of it doesn't seem very fan friendly to me.

[(Anonymous)]

i haven't heard anything about this, could you please explain?
are the creators against fanworks in general or against people profiting off them?