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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-20 03:27 pm

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Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
USA is crazy with your democrats and republicans, and so called boomers. Those are people in their 70s, they have dementia to deal with.
From the outsider's POV politics obsessed americans are very lame. They usually have no actual knowledge about their representives and actual policies behind the politicians' rethorics. Stupid people making their identity about their uninformed political views.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
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Also sorry if the dementia remark sounds insensitive. Not all old people suffer from mental issues.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
USA is crazy with your democrats and republicans

What is crazy about it? Other countries have political parties, it is not something unique to the US.

so called boomers.

Why "so called"? The different generation labels correlate to people born between certain years, it's not so-called. It's not just a slang term for "old people", it has an actual definition. Maybe in your country they don't use those labels, which might be why you're calling them "people in their 70s", but it's a legitimate thing, and the youngest boomers are exactly 60, so not all in their 70s.

They usually have no actual knowledge about their representives and actual policies behind the politicians' rethorics.

From the outsider's POV politics obsessed americans are very lame.

Why is it very lame? In my experience, the people who consider themselves politics obsessed are the ones who are very educated about what's going on in politics and very well versed on the different politics of specific politicians. I think it's good to be informed.

They usually have no actual knowledge about their representives and actual policies behind the politicians' rethorics.

"Usually" is definitely an exaggeration. Is it true that there are people who are uninformed when it comes to politics? Yes, but a lot of those people don't vote at all, and of the ones that do, it's not a large enough percentage to be defined as "usually".

Stupid people making their identity about their uninformed political views.

This is not as big of an issue as you seem to think it is, and definitely not the majority.

Overall, I feel like you are generalizing way too much about the state of US politics for someone who is not even from the US. I don't know where you get your information, but it is not correct.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
No other country is that crazy about politics. No one says "oh, this block? He's a Tory". No one else uses political leanings to describe others.

It is correct. Have you read political spiels on fs? Crazy. Have you read comments on YT and Reddit? If you haven't noticed stupidity and narrow mindness, then you're a part of a crowd, sorry to say. Idk maybe it's better offline but I really doubt it.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
It is not correct.

Have you read political spiels on fs? Crazy. Have you read comments on YT and Reddit? If you haven't noticed stupidity and narrow mindness, then you're a part of a crowd, sorry to say. Idk maybe it's better offline but I really doubt it.

That's where you go wrong. You can't make generalities on Americans' relationship to politics based on FS, YT and Reddit. There is absolutely stupidity and narrow-mindedness in those places when it comes to politics, but it is not emblematic of the entire country.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I think someone who has regular contact with people from the US has a perfect right to form opinions on what he sees them saying and doing. Non-American!Anon don't have to have some mythical balanced view based on also dealing with moderates who never show up in their field of vision, and they don't have to make up a more flattering picture than the one they get from direct experience. FandomSecrets is arguably a fairly small and self-selected community, and perhaps unfair for that reason, but Reddit and YouTube are giant. You're skirting close to "no true Scotsman," if you argue that's not a fair representation of public opinions in America. What would be, in your estimation? Or is it just because they think Americans are extreme, as opposed to level-headed and measured?

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
You’re only half right. People constantly say things like “what do you expect, he’s a Tory?” But that’s the only party that applies to on a large scale, you’re not going to hear more than one person say it about Lib Dems or Labour supporters or anyone else.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, most countries just have a bit more than just two political parties (That count, at least). It's very black or white in the US.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's black and black tbh.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
And this bullshit is why you'll get another turn with Trump and half the world already hates you for it.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
In fact, anon.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
More than two is too complicated for USA.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no, you're very sheltered if you think everyone else is looking at the USA and thinking we're the only ones this crazy when it comes to politics. I have online friends from all over the world who complain about their countries' politics batshittery all the time.

Also, I read the news and can see it for myself. As can you, if you get out of your jingoistic echo chamber.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Fine, but do they describe themselves or others by their political party? Do they put political stickers on their cars? It's a US thing only. I think I was clear enough about that with my tory excample.
I never said that no one else in the World is interested in politics.
If I'm wrong then go ahead and name the country.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
Fine, but do they describe themselves or others by their political party? Do they put political stickers on their cars? It's a US thing only.

The two major parties are very distinct groups with specific beliefs. Describing someone by political party is just easy shorthand to convey what someone's general beliefs are in a situation where it's relevant but you don't want to have to spend a lot of time explaining things in detail. I'm not sure why it bothers you so much.

People in the US also put stickers on their cars of bands, sports teams, US states, national parks, animals, etc. I don't see what relevance it has.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT
Oh, people totally put political stickers on their cars here. Welp, that's not a good people though

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Agree.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-21 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a lot to complain about in the politics of other countries and the bad governments, but in a lot of places, people aren't trying to hold other random citizens responsible for the bullshit politicians do.

Re: Generational differences when it comes to how you feel about politics?

(Anonymous) 2024-05-22 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
The US, for all its big talk about democracy, doesn't actually have politicians that represent the public will. And the citizens at large don't know how to discipline their "representatives" effectively when they try to rip off the public to benefit their rich donors. There's a lot of screaming and anger and an over-emphasis on the meager benefits of voting, because there's very little effective action to correct injustice, wage theft, or the deteriorating standard of living. No one (who didn't own a bank) wanted the bank bailouts. Normal Americans are still paying for them. Take that problem and multiply it by a thousand, and you'll get a sense for why they're so embittered. And I think the only thing that's going to meaningfully change it is if they find a way to exercise power directly and change the things that they want reversed, reformed, and changed.