[ SECRET POST #6597 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6597 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

All this purity test stuff is out of control. While I ran into it years ago, it's never been this widespread.

I don't know how people have the energy, especially when they themselves couldn't pass their own purity tests.

[(Anonymous)]

especially when they themselves couldn't pass their own purity tests.

Tbh, I think that's why some of them do it. Jab the finger at others so no one notices their shortcomings.

[(Anonymous)]

I imagine if, 3000 years from now, alien archaeologists were trying to determine what life on Earth was like and all they had to go on was the Jerry Springer Show and the complete works of John Calvin, they'd come up with fandom purity culture.

[(Anonymous)]

God, I miss trash TV. Only because it was limited to the goddamn TV and wank was something you only occasionally saw in online fandom spaces.

[(Anonymous)]

The anon on who who resorts to sexual slurs the moment their own political ideology is challenged certainly couldn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Again with the slurs and you have yet to point them out. Keep it to the politics thread.

[(Anonymous)]

(I don't know who the guy in the picture is or what he's done, but speaking more generally on these "internet celebrities" who do awful shit, get called out for it, and then have conservatives whining that they were "canceled" when they pretty much never face any actual consequences for their actions.)

I don't know how people have the energy, especially when they themselves couldn't pass their own purity tests.

Maybe you couldn't, but most of us could because the bar is so fucking low. Just be a decent human to other people and at bare minimum, don't use racial slurs. I have never used a racial slur in my life, and have zero problem judging people who do. Teenagers are not babies and are old enough to know right from wrong.

Yelling at cab drivers for not speaking English, calling Black women monkeys, and drawing on a mustache with a Sharpie and running around doing Nazi salutes (just a few things that come to mind that YouTubers have done) are not acceptable things to do just because the people doing them are teenagers. I didn't do anything like that when I was a teenager, and neither did anyone I know, because we were raised right and knew better.

So defend that shit if you want, but some of us have morals and will continue to call out horrible behavior.

[(Anonymous)]

I hope you're speaking in general terms, because I don't engage in the atrocious behavior you speak of or condone it, nor did I once claim that I do.

I certainly don't throw out purity tests that I can't even meet so I can attack people for failing them.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

No, I'm not talking about you specifically. I see people defending public figures who did awful racist shit and they're like "no one is perfect, we all make mistakes" and like...not all of us make those kinds of mistakes. There are some things that should not be defended/dismissed and if people do, I'm going to judge them, and I'm fine with that.

[(Anonymous)]

If the purity test is "never once called something gay (insult) when you were literally 16-17 years old" I fail that test.

Callouts are relevant if the person is still actively doing that behavior right now. But if it's like in the secret where people are digging into people's history of being a dumbass 10+ years ago, let the first non-cringe teen throw the first stone.

- a queer person among many similar queer people who don't do that any more

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I have never done that. I remember arguing with my redneck uncle when I was 12 (even while going to Catholic school, which condemned queer people) that same-sex marriage should be legalized and considered myself an ally (although I didn't know that word back then; I would've just said I was a supporter of gay rights) well before realizing I was queer myself, so no...at 16-17 I was waaaaay past realizing that gay was not an insult.

[(Anonymous)]

Good for you and you were ahead of most teenagers then. But acting like most teenagers weren't casually using something they didn't understand as an insult, even if they weren't actually homophobic, and pretending like none of those teens could possibly have learned better is...

Good luck if that's your litmus test for acceptable people, because if all your friends claim the same - they were NEVER cringe or EVER said anything bigoted as a dumb teen - they're lying to you.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Well... that or you are very, very lonely.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Not at all. I just choose to only have relationships with decent people. If you believe they're lying, that's not my problem.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm you went a bit too far to be believable yourself there. Implying that someone is not a "decent person" because they called something gay once as a teenager, which they admittedly don't do any more and might have been decades ago, isn't something a reasonable person would do.

[(Anonymous)]

My, what a saint you are.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Ngl, I'm kinda leaning with agreeing with OP that anyone who is all "well I never did x and I was never a cringe teen" and regards themselves as the pure unicorn is just ignorant of all the factors and lack of education and experience that can apply to so many young people, especially teens, and is based in their own lack of experience.

Lots of people never have the opportunity to learn better or have bigotry be a real thing that impacts people until they head to college and meet a much wider variety of people than there exists in their home town or neighborhood. There's a reason conservatives hate college and cities and blame them for turning their children "woke."

Being like "well I knew better so everyone else could have too (no, not really, that's not how anything works)" just... dismisses all that for so many people.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Lots of people never have the opportunity to learn better or have bigotry be a real thing that impacts people until they head to college and meet a much wider variety of people than there exists in their home town or neighborhood

I guess. I grew up in the bible belt surrounded by a family of rednecks but we still had Black neighbors and I had Black classmates and knew that racism was wrong. And even something as simple as sitcoms with gay characters is enough for a kid to be exposed to different things and realize that gay people exist. Not to mention the fact that I was reading constantly...it didn't take until college to realize there were people out there different than me.

I mean, maybe if someone grows up in a town that is 100% white and has zero access to books or TV, then maybe it's understandable that they'd end up thinking these things are okay, but that seems like an incredibly uncommon situation.

[(Anonymous)]

We're not talking about things like calling black people monkeys or doing heil hitlers here though.

I'm willing to bet money that 95% of this community has, as kids or teenagers, likely before knowing any better:

- called something "gay" as an insult
- called something "retarded" or "special" as an insult
- called something "autistic" as an insult or used the word sperg as a verb
- called something or someone a "spaz" or "spastic"
- called someone a "pussy" or "bitch" to indicate cowardice or otherwise called something "girly" as an insult
- asked insultingly if someone who is obviously neither blind nor deaf, is blind or deaf

Tons of people, especially kids, can be bigots without realizing they are bigots.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

No, I just try to be a halfway decent person? Not being racist or homophobic is not some super high standard to have of people and the fact that so many people in these comments are acting like it is is kind of mindboggling to me.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but we all have different experiences and journeys we must take.

When I look back on my life, I realize just how racist the household I grew up in was. Oh, sure, there were certain thresholds we never passed - for example, don't use slurs to people's faces. But that didn't stop the adults from passing nasty ass racist jokes on to the children, or implying ugly things about a person due to their race. Honestly, I look back and wonder, why in the hell did they think that was remotely okay to say that about anyone, much less in front of child?

The only thing that may have saved me, oddly enough, was parental neglect. I was often alone and the TV was my babysitter. I found a variety of television shows, centered around people of all races. MTV gets a bad rap (though somewhat deserved) for not playing music anymore, but they also introduced me to LGBTQ folks and some of their struggles (though obviously, it was still a limited view for the audience). I got into comedians like George Carlin, who took a skeptical view on issues that society didn't seem to find problematic, or even notice.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying woke TV made me woke... I'm just saying, it planted a lot of seeds. I eventually ended up more woke with time, because I concluded it was better to be that way. But during that time, I misstepped a LOT, and maybe I still do sometimes. If someone had slapped a purity test on me, no question I would have failed it. And I'm not 100% sure I wouldn't have just gone the other way just to spite the purity asshole. I certainly hope I would be better about it now.

But yeah, we all have our own journeys.

[(Anonymous)]

sa

*in front of a child (all the spellchecking in the world still can't save me from entire word omissions, jfc)

[(Anonymous)]

Right?

I am so baffled at how quickly some folk will blatantly tell others 'oh yeah I used to run around saying slurs all the time, but I got better!' as if the admission of that wouldn't put people on edge, especially those who would be affected by those slurs. I'm not saying you can't have grown from it, but you do not need to go around telling people this like some bizarre badge of honor like you're some kind of hero for knowing what some of us have known since we could talk?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Yeah. I think there are just a lot more shitty people out there than I'd like to believe (although I guess that should be obvious given the results of the last election, but that's a different topic). Not using racial or gay slurs is like the absolute fucking minimum to being a decent person and the fact that so many people act like that's just such a completely unreasonable thing to expect of people is fucking wild to me.