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So, alpha/beta/Omega fics are often shorted to a/b/o. And for years now, ABO. Some popular tiktok person recently made a video about how "using ABO is using a slur." Because an outdated slur for aboriginal people in Australia is "abo". I was talking to someone about how "ABO is popular on ao3 but didn't originate from ao3" and someone buts in "you are using a slur! Acronyms have to use a . or /"

I can't take people like that seriously. ABO is used by tons of organizations with any punctuation. It is used as shorthand for blood typing.

Do they not understand how context work? Charlie, spook, and coon are slurs if used a certain way. So are apple and banana. Should they just not use those words too?

Yeah, that annoys the shit out of me. I'm not going to pay attention to the language usage of a society I don't live in because an acronym in a context that has nothing to do with them just happens to match a word that means something specific to just them. "In my neighborhood 'oof' is a slur so you shouldn't use it when someone in your neighborhood falls over!" Fuck off.

Omg. I should start making up local slurs for whatever their username is. Lol.

omg i have seen this before

"that word is a slur in X country!"

ok well i'm not from x country how the fuck was i supposed to know that? don't act like i just came in and shat on the fucking rug

My personal opinion is that if you have to explain to the ordinary person that something is a slur, it's not really a slur anymore for the context reason: because no one knows it.

Don’t invite the devil in. There are absolutely people who argue you shouldn’t use those other words either.

But you’re absolutely right that it’s silly and arguably counterproductive. We’ve all got to accept that words and abbreviations are used in lots of contexts with different meanings.

For example, I’m sick of the number of people who think that “CP” can’t be used in any other context. That attitude seems so very childish to me.

"Chink" is also a slur, but it's also a perfectly cromulent word. People are often too dumb (or too eager to score Most Enlightened Person in the Room points) to take in context, but they should.

ugh the number of times I've used it correctly (e.g. chink in the armor) and then second-guessed myself for days is too damn high.

Oh man, this is a word I do my best not to use. Not because it can't be used correctly, but because any and every mention of it viscerally reminds me of a sports reporter specifically using the title "A Chink in the Armour" to refer to how the top, very Chinese player, performed poorly and cost them the game. They deleted it, but it just stuck to me. I've never been able to hear that word without thinking of that article and how very badly they fucked up.

Australian here, and while yes ABO can be misinterpreted to be that slur, it was pronounced like "Abbo". Classic putting two letters in a name (ie Shazza, Bazza, Maccas, etc)

I mean, yeah, I'm Australian and I'm older so seeing it in print does make me jump (it absolutely still is used IRL, but not in print anymore, so I would be hesitant to call it "outdated"). I would rather not see it written out without the slashes, or see it as "omegaverse". But also I'm not into that trope so I'm not going to show up and bother people when they call it that.

Personally, I find it a little worrying that people are using the not my country not my problem excuse rather than the obvious different contexts mean different things answer. It reminds me of an author who translated their work into english and used the word Gypsy to describe a character, (a nameless wild traveling fortune teller) and when told it was considered a slur and offered reasonable other options they just doubled down and said that everyone in their country uses that word to describe people like that and it isn't a slur and they know that because they're european, or something.

I've heard that A/B/O is a slur as well before, but it's not even word, and very clearly not even a personal descriptor even when used. It doesn't take away from the feelings of people who are hurt when hearing that word, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the slur either, and rather obviously at that. Telling people to not use an acronym at all because it sorta resembles something that might be offensive to a group of people is dumb though. Context and comprehension is what matters.

It's from the Vietnam war - Viet Cong getting shortened to VC, which becomes Victor Charlie in the NATO alphabet, which then becomes Charlie.

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