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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2026-02-16 06:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #6982 ]


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Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
And people think I'm trolling when I say a 'cis' tag would genuinely help people like you who area looking ONLY for that. :(

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
The people who would tag cis already tag trans, which makes that easily avoided. The people who wouldn't use it are the ones making their omega intersexed or only have vaginas or have a male character "not be trans but he has a vagina just because."

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I meant you could block trans and search for cis, and know for 100% sure that what you find is cis.

Whereas only blocking trans means you still have to guess.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
It's just not a useful suggestion. No one would use the tag other than the people who already tag things correctly. People would absolutely push back that it's not a mandated tag so they don't have to and you're an asshole for even asking.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I mean no one HAS to tag anything and that's been true since forever. Tags are supposed to be both for avoiding things you don't want AND finding things you do want.

I dunno why you're so opposed to it, but okay.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm neck deep in tagging discourse around other things, and the pushback when you suggest someone tag something that actually is a major trigger (such as graphic child abuse, spousal abuse, etc etc) is insane. Tagging "cis" for canonically cis characters is so mild as to be worthless when you can't even get someone to tag for suicide.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Someone who isn't going to tag for suicide isn't going to tag for anything though. Those are lost causes whether it's mild or extreme. But someone who writes both trans fic and cis fic who does tag properly can direct you only to those fics, so you don't have to guess and gamble on untagged ones.

I understand you're against the idea though, so I'm going to shrug and drop it here.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
DA

It's not correct because this is fanfiction, fic based on established characters, people, and stories. If a character is cis in canon you don't need to tag that /because/ it is already canon. Like I'm the OP for the poc character tag, and it is wrong, imo, to tag a canon character based on the canon colour of their skin. Tagging their canon gender would be similarly strange.

Hell, if I'm reading GTA V fic, I don't expect them to tag for minor violence either. But that's another whole can of worms altogether.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Vash/Knives is NOT canon, believe it or not. Neither is Viktor/Jayce. Lol. And neither 'cis/cis' nor 'cis/trans' nor 'trans/trans' of either ship is canon.

In fact 'slash' is not canon at all, so what's the big deal about also tagging what variety of slash it is, so people looking only for non-canon cis/cis can find it?

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
This os sich a dumb comment. Well duh, they're not in canon relationships. That's why you tag the ship. Doesn't mean they're not canonically cis. That's why you shouldn't need to tag that.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
SA fuck you autocorrect.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
So... what's the big deal about also tagging what variety of slash it is, so people looking only for cis/cis slash can find it? It's such a little thing that hurts no one and would help people?

The more I read in this thread, the more I begin to think this is less about taking 2 seconds to add a tag that people can search for, and more about a moral stance that rejects de-centralizing cis which oh boy fandom is not ready to even talk about yet hahaha

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

No, we're just trying to explain to you that cis is already implied and no one is actually going to do it. If your solution relies on "people should just..." then that's a solution that is never going to happen. People just aren't going to do it.

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Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Not really with the cis tag, even though I'm in the exact same boat.
If something is canon then tagging it is not necessary, people should be tagging trans character accurately, regardless of if it's their headcanon/popular. They should also specify which way the character is trans as well, which honestly people have been a lot better at than since Trans Characters became everyones new fav kink. At least they are where I lurk.

Like people tag differently for different fandoms, and tags are a mess as they are, but when you literally change the gender/body of a character then that should definitely be one of the top tags on the list. Cis wouldn't be on the radars of fandoms with little gender tags, and unless you're going by the rule 63, "has always be a girl/guy", trans fem shepard, transmasc shepard, etc, ect. There are too many variations already that adding another tag into the mix would just be even more annoying to sort through. Especially because you already know people are going to do it wrong.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
This. I don't use a "trans" tag when I write about my canon's canon trans character because we all KNOW she's trans, that's canon. Anyone who is searching for fic about her knows what they want and what they're going to be getting.

I would, however, use a "cis" tag if I were writing her as being a cis girl for whatever reason because that's NOT canon and so no one would be expecting to find that in a fic.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Exactly! It's weird to me to tag for something that is canonly a part of who a character is. There's no need to add a citation unless you are changing the script/character themself! Just like you mentioned.

I honestly don't get it!

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
DA I tag my m/m with m/m even if it's from a canon BL series, because people do search for the "m/m" tag and want to find m/m.

It doesn't matter if it's canon or not? It's purely for sorting purposes.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
If we're talking AO3, then the m/m is a separate category so it wouldn't need an extra tag.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
And if we're not talking AO3?

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still usually unnecessary because if you know the characters and don't genderbend them, the m/m tag is implied.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
da

I guess I didn't realize that a BL series explicitly meant that exactly zero other ships were allowed. Must be hard to write for a series with only two whole characters to fill the entire narrative. Your fandom must be tiny.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a lot of words to not address that tags are for sorting purposes only and don't have to do with what's canon.

Tagging a slice of life canon as slice of life shows that it continues the genre of canon as opposed to diverging and being drama. Tagging a character as cis just shows that it continues the canon in the same way. Sorting and categorizing is good.

The vehement pushback about this mild idea is so, so strange to me

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody is "vehement" about it, it's just unnecessary. People not agreeing with you =/= people being dramatic.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: Do you have any squicks?

(Anonymous) 2026-02-17 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
"I guess I didn't realize that a BL series explicitly meant that exactly zero other ships were allowed. Must be hard to write for a series with only two whole characters to fill the entire narrative. Your fandom must be tiny."

This is so dramatic lol