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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-31 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #1763 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1763 ⌋

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Notes:

Somebody's been spamming the submissions post with old secrets, apparently (for what actual purpose, I'm not sure). Just give me a heads up and I'll take the repeats down.

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 200 secrets from Secret Submission Post #252.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - omgiknowthem ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-10-31 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc

NF1

[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-10-31 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
oh get over yourself.

NF

(Anonymous) 2011-10-31 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP, but yeah. I think less of people for smoking, especially if they're younger than 30. There's just no excuse for taking up the habit anymore.

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[identity profile] countess-k.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
This is the reason I can't get close to a girl in our group. She's fun, active, single like myself, and we share a lot of interests. But she smokes. I feel like I can't be her friend because if I were to be honest with her I would tell her she's an idiot. So it's either offending her or hiding my true opinion.
ext_19953: (it's just an object. (in SPAAAAACE))

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[identity profile] mutantjules.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
....really?

If you truly must, you could just say to her "dude, you're my friend, and because of this I have to say I kinda think you're an idiot for smoking." She'd probably say something like "I like smoking. I know the effects. You're not my mom and I'll do what I want, thanks" and I'm assuming you'd say something like "I know" or "okay" and then it would never come up again

(not being her mom or her doctor, you could always just keep your opinion to yourself, but hey. Hell, maybe she'd say something like "I know. It's stupid. I'm working on cutting down with a mind to quit soon but I could use some help with keeping on track. Wanna motivate me?" My point is, you can definitely BE A GIRL'S FRIEND even though she smokes =/)

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[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
So it's either offending her or hiding my true opinion.

Why is that so hard? Do you honestly vomit out every thought that comes into your head or consider it dishonest somehow? You don't actually have to tell somebody what you think of them and every one of their life choices. You can just mind your own business.
Or hey, guess what, sometimes you feel you really need to, maybe because you honestly care about the person so much, and you'll be willing to face the consequences to help them. Interventions are typically filled with close friends and family members.
But choosing to avoid a person you'd otherwise be friends with just because they smoke seems really petty.

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[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
What? Do you honestly think it's your right or responsibility to tell every person you know exactly what you think of their choices? Why would that be in any way expected? It's freaking rude. I bet your friends don't feel the need to openly approve or disapprove of every action you take in your life. I bet many of them treat you like an actual adult person who is capable of making decisions, even if they don't always agree with you.

For some reason many non-smokers seem to think that they have a right to explain to people how stupid/gross/inconsiderate/unhealthy they are for smoking. Even though those same people don't think they have a right to school people or call them names for any other bad habit, like driving too fast, or drinking alcohol, or eating transfats, or any of the other million-and-one things people do that are bad for them. JFC, grown-ups get to decide to do bad things sometimes, just because we enjoy them. It doesn't make us idiots.

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[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you're free of bad habits.

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[identity profile] spacebabie.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't care what their vices are I can still have fun with my fandom friends online, but I can't be near them when they light up because of my asthma.

I think it's a bad habit and my mother fubared her lungs because of it but I aint their momma or their doctor so I won't tell them it's nasty. I'd just bring up my asthma and hopefully they won't think it's rude of me if I stand away from them while they smoke.

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[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Because they want to? Because they're self-medicating, perhaps for anxiety or depression? Because a lot of people think it looks cool?

I'm pretty sure there isn't a single smoking adult who isn't fully aware of the consequences, but they choose to do it anyway. They must have their reasons. People rarely do things "because they're just stupid, that's why."
It's not a choice I would make. It's a choice I asked my mother not to make because she was my close family member and thus I felt it was my business. It can be fairly objectively pegged as an unwise choice and a vice. But everybody has vices and makes unwise choices, they just vary from person to person. Most things seem like a good idea at the time.

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[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Because enjoying something is no excuse? I guess there is no excuse for people eating cheeseburgers, either, but I certainly don't think less of people who do it.

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[identity profile] llrael.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too, Anon. I'm sure it's not "right" or "rational" but yeah, I judge.

omgiknowthem

(Anonymous) 2011-10-31 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
like...you are literally engaged to him or you just have a picture of him with the mouth cut out that you soul kiss before bed and you spend most days writing creepy letters to him while a restraining order is pending?

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[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
i love you, nonnie

NS

(Anonymous) 2011-11-01 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
basically this

man i could write a whole fuckin' essay about half the morality shit and how fucked it was in that show

nf

[identity profile] santagrover.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
...Obama smokes and I still think he's pretty cool

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[identity profile] llrael.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
...aww man, why'd you go tell me that? Now my respect for him has plummeted like a cannonball. :( Sad times.

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[identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I have never been a smoker but plenty of intelligent people smoke. Do I think it's a great choice? No, but it's also none of my business.
Edited 2011-11-01 01:54 (UTC)

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[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I think less of your intelligence, tbh. I mean it's a gross habit and all, but what a crazy judgment to make!

omgiknowthem

(Anonymous) 2011-11-01 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about anyone else, but I really don't see how this qualifies as that type of secret.

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-01 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I thought the exact same thing. You are not the only one.

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[identity profile] mistaria.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I took it as a secret by someone who likes the show and the guy a lot, not as someone who is actually in a relationship with him or knows him. ::shrugs::

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-01 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Shh...we'll just let the OP indulge in their strange fantasy a little while longer. The fact that [livejournal.com profile] technophile placed it where he did might make them think they actually have a chance with...whoever that is.

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[identity profile] joshua-glass.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
As an asthmatic and someone allergic to tobacco, I don't like being around people who smoke. Do I think people who smoke are making a bad decision? Sure, but would I mention it to their faces? Probably not. One bad decision doesn't render someone completely unintelligent, OP, and chances are, this person knows that they have a bad habit. Everyone has bad habits, and most smokers I've known (including my brother, who I only roll my eyes at because a)we're painfully close and b) he only just started smoking a few years ago and we're almost thirty, so he can't even blame it on high school peer pressure) go out of their way to not smoke near me if I am somewhere with them. Sure there are some asshole smokers who will stand right at a bus stop and exhale in your face, but those assholes are usually few and far between.

Also, even as an asthmatic, I find it weird to have a no smoking policy in bars. Family restaurants? Sure. But in my head, I always connected bars and smoking, so to be honest, I just wouldn't go if it bothered me to be there.

The one thing I utterly cannot stand though, is when I am walking into work, and I have to walk past people smoking next to big ass signs that say "________ ____ HOSPITAL IS A SMOKE FREE AREA!" I mean, really people? Smoking outside hospital doors? I think it bugs me more that it's a fine-able offense, we have security, and yet I've never seen them ticket anyone. I think less people would be so blatant about it/go stand in the parking lot at least if they knew their odds of being fined for it were greater. :/

It's ten times worse imo when I see a patient attached to ivs/oxygen out there puffing away. I know quitting is hard, but being in a hospital seems like a legit good reason to try...

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[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
really people? Smoking outside hospital doors?

For a lot of smokers, smoking is a way to calm down and feel normal. For non-smokers, it seems to always carry a connotation of OMGCANCER, but that's not what I, at least, think about when I light up. If you are used to it, smoking can function as a way to calm your nerves, settle your stomach, a reason to step away from something that's bothering you, or just a way to get rid of a headache. Hospitals can be really, really stressful places, so outside hospital doors isn't that unusual a place to want to smoke.

The first time I ever smoked in front of my mom was outside a hospital door, following the death of a relative.

Anywho, about 60% of the doctors/nurses/med students I know smoke anyway, so I've always been surprised when hospitals don't allow smoking anywhere on the campus.

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