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*shrug* it's a halfway faithful adaptation against what is Holmes-mostly-in-name, light fun. I don't really see the comparision here. Some people like their popcorn entertainment, some like the more groundedness. Most just go in for the shippiness, and there it depends on what sort of dynamic you prefer.

I look at it this way: I figure a lot of people that only enjoy the movie wouldn't really like the canon. People that like the show, I see them as more likely to appreciate the actual canon.

There really isn't a better, though I admit I pine for the days when Sherlock fandom was restricted just to the lit. X3

I love the books and I prefer the movies

:P Have been proven wrong, then!

I more meant that there's much less connection to anything actually canon in the movie, especially in terms of characterization. In very broad, fuzzy terms it's relatable: eccentric genius with a loyal companion. But other than that pretty much every thing else is different/forgoed. The intricate plots, the most of the characterization. Sherlock BBC, I feel, tries a little harder to actually mirror the canon.

I'm not saying either is better, they're just very different.

Maybe I am the only one but I see many things that are similar between the books and the movies. But maybe is just many and mu crazy imagination.

No, you are not alone. :)

Agreed. Been an avid reader of the books for years. Started to re-read the adventures and thought that the film version is very faithful to the canon than most would give credit for versus the television series.

This is coming from someone that appreciates both the film and television series as a whole.

Not alone. :)

There's a great deal of canon in the movies. And I know more people who went from the movies to the books than from the BBC series to the books.

Me, I've been a Sherlockian for decades, and I love them both. And Granada. And the Russian series. And the Ronald Howard series. And for that matter the Geoffrey Whitehead... er, um, yup, as long as there's a decent Watson, I'm pretty much a fan!

Not the only one, but I certainly see very little similarity myself.

The Granada series (for all its occasional cheesiness) knocks all other versions into a cocked hat, IMO.

The one, the only Sherlock Holmes worth a damn. Second place to Russian Holmes.

I love Russian Holmes. It's flawless. Holmes is great, Watson is great, and their chemistry is great. And it's just a great adaption overall.

AYRT

It's not quite flawless to me because of the mix and match approach to the stories and the fact that Eastern Europe doesn't look anything like London (though they try hard) - plus they have some truly strange minor casting choices. But Solomin Watson: he pretty.

So agreed! The settings and such don't matter to me as mmuch as the characters and how they interact.

No, I agree with you. I see more of a connection between the films and the books than the TV series and the books.

Not the only one. I've had a lot of discussions with my aunt over my insistance that the movies aren't that far off as people say...

People base many of their headcanon sherlock on the Granada series. Maybe that is the reason

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(Anonymous) - 2012-01-16 17:27 (UTC) - Expand

I've been reading the books lately, and I find I like RDJ's version. He's not a pure, complete asshole the way Cumberbatch is. Canon!Sherlock is condescending and a little self-absorbed, but he doesn't feel like an utter asshole. He's not perfect, but I vastly prefer him.

I don't have qualms with either Watson's personality, though. I just find it a little funny that someone who's "tanned and thin" from Afghanistan would be a little, erm, Martin Freeman-esque. I love Martin Freeman, but I would never use "thin" to describe him.

You have point about RDJs Sherlock. The thing that annoyed me a little about him is how completely over the top he is in terms of eccentricities and mannerisms.

I don't think recent Watsons have been done badly, but for some reason I always find like there's something missing in them.

To get all superficial here, one thing that endeared me to Sherlock BBC was they were actually relatively young. Sherlocks tend to be made so old in all adaptations. RDJ really isn't as bad as some when it comes to how old people cast Sherlock, but I do prefer the BBC for that.

I love Martin Freeman, but I would never use "thin" to describe him

I'm a little confused, he looks thin to me...

IDK if I'd call him 'thin'. He's pretty average in build. Certainly not fat, but not someone I'd describe as 'thin' either.

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LOL same here. I have all the Holmes books and I've read them a million times. I love the movies and only like the show. :D

But like someone already said, they're completely defferent interpretations so... IDK, I can enjoy both of them without comapring them too much... or at all.

I feel the same way. Love the books, love all the adaptations, but I do prefer the movies slightly more. I think each is strong in its own way, each having its weaknesses as well. I've never understood the idea that you need to be in one camp over another, can't we all just love Holmes/Watson no matter how they exist? Anything that continues or expands upon stories I already love is good enough for me. <3 MOAR HOLMES, MOAR BETTER.

Holy assumptions, batman.
I've been a huge fan of Sherlock canon, before either the movies or the series came about. And guess what? I prefer the movies. And not because of shippiness or whatever. Sure, they might not be completely faithful but the films provide enough of the canon's 'groundedness' for me to appreciate it. Personally, I think some of the film's energy is more appropriate to some of Sherlock than the programme, but anyway.

Even though you don't seem aggressive, you seem to think people who like 'popcorn flicks' don't like reading and this comment smacks of condescension to me. Especially since you pine for just the literature. What difference does the adaptations make to the lit?

Some people like their popcorn entertainment, some like the more groundedness

Lol no.

Some people just don't think the TV series is very good, tone of it aside.

this. seriously, i hate the implication that movies are somehow dumber or more mindless than tv series.

i won't claim that the sherlock holmes movies are incredible pieces of cinema, but bbc!sherlock is hardly a more gritty and 'grounded' piece of media. heck, i'm a fan of the series and i still wouldn't call it any more than a fun detective drama.

Haha, exactly. Human Ipod!Sherlock was frankly ridiculous, and I didn't care for Moffat's "lesbian dominatrix who ultimately falls at a man's feet overcome by his manly rationalism" Adler at all.

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