[ SECRET POST #1896 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1896 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 115 secrets from Secret Submission Post #271.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Wait. So do you hate all threeway poly relationships or just this one? Or just ones with certain pairings? I can understand disliking certain pairings, but to say you hate all poly pairings ever....is a little generalizing and prejudiced.

[(Anonymous)]

this. I like OT3s because there's constant shifts in the dynamic, without the shipping drama. I can understand if incest OT3 squicks the OP, but ALL OT3s ever?

...Maybe OP should try saathi1013's Lorem Ipsem series, and see whether it's just this particular OT3 in their secret that they don't like.

http://saathi1013.livejournal.com/34385.html

[(Anonymous)]

Is it really that hard to think someone doesn't like OT3s? I personally vastly dislike such a thing in my shipping. It's not uncommon.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Sorry, I just don't get the hate- maybe it's because I know actual poly people, so saying that you vastly dislike it feels a bit like someone saying 'slash is icky' when they're talking to people whose best friends happen to be gay.

Why do you dislike OT3s so much? (not attacking, just curious)

[(Anonymous)]

DA, but...real life versus fiction and all that. I was just talking to a friend today about love triangles, and how in books, you're usually supposed to like the main character in that triangle. In real life? The reaction tends to be "just make up your mind, you selfish person you."

I personally like my fiction to rely heavily on the soul mates idea, one and one, but I don't carry that over to real life. I also have poly friends, and I'm not generally a jealous person, so I've even had open relationships that lasted a good while. Real life and fiction are separate things when it comes to preferences.

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's not at all appealing to me. It doesn't mean I hate people that do like it or think, IRL, it's a terrible lifestyle, but I don't like it in fandom, so I just don't read it. I wasn't popping in to shit on your life or anything, just to state that it's not uncommon for someone to dislike poly pairings, and it's not fair to be all confused that someone wouldn't be. It's a taste, pure and simple.

[(Anonymous)]

I find it really hard to comprehend why some people don't like reading any poly fic. I get having certain OTPs you don't want messed with, but not being interested in any threeway relationships under any circumstances seems so weird to me. It's like never wanting to read a story where someone has two best friends, rather than one best friend. It seems so arbitrary to rule out the idea completely.

Generally I just assume that people just haven't found the right poly pairing for them, yet. (I sort of assume this with people who ship only slash and not het, or vice versa, too.) But I guess it could also be people who are mono themselves wanting to read only stories that explore their own desires? Or people who have had the 'love = monogamy' idea shoved down their throat by society so much that they literally don't believe people can be in love in polyamourous relationships?

IDK. IDK.

[xenafox.livejournal.com]

Um wow, this is vaguely insulting. My best friend is poly, and I accept it, like to hear about the times she has with her partners, etc etc. But poly in fanfic just isn't my thing. It doesn't suddenly become something I enjoy reading just because of her lifestyle. Not enjoying reading it certainly doesn't mean disapproving of it irl.

[(Anonymous)]

Is it prejudiced to dislike ships with X issue or Y factor? lolno don't be stupid.

I have never liked a poly pairing, I don't think they work, I don't like their dynamics, I don't like anything about them. Get over it some people hate threeways in general.

(not op)

[(Anonymous)]

Why you haters bawwwing tho?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think they work

Get over it some people hate threeways

You make the ghosts of Bertrand Russell and Amelia Earhart deeply sad, anon. :(

[(Anonymous)]

just in fic or are you judging people with that lifestyle irl too?

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

"I have never liked a poly pairing. I don't think they work, I don't like their dynamics, I don't like anything about them. Get over it some people hate threeways in general."

....wow, see, I'm just mentally replacing "poly/threeways" with "homosexual/same-sex couples" in that statement...

How the fuck would you know whether polys "work" or not? What grounds do you have to hate threeways other than your personal prejudice? Even if you witnessed/participated in one, that's like saying "I dated/knew someone who dated a member of the same sex and it didn't work so all gay couples don't work." Obviously poly relationships are more complicated than straight couples, but then so are same-sex ones.

[marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com]

100% this.

Also, claiming that triads/quads/open marriages can't possibly last because they always break up- jesus, look at the monogamous heterosexual divorce rate before picking at the splinter in your neighbor's eye.

You could replace 'poly' with anything- interracial, gay, may/december couples, pairings with a transgender person involved- it'd still be spouting ignorance.

[nomorefrostbite.livejournal.com]

This is so far the only NON-anon comment in this entire thread. So imma post non-anon too since NothingToHideMoveAlongPlz.

Just want to say THIS THIS THIS to everything you just said.

I know have irl friends in Poly relationships that are fulfilling and wonderful for them and work amazingly.

I really hope all these haters are talking about purely the WRITING of Poly pairings in fanfic, and not the actuality of them in REAL LIFE, because seriously, that level of ignorance must be 'bliss'.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL, no. Being attracted to multiple people at the same time is in no way similar to being gay, asshole. They might overlap, but they are not the same.

[(Anonymous)]

So, what you're saying is that it's okay to judge someone because they happen to be in more than one romantic relationship at the same time? [And no, I'm not including people who cheat] 'Cause that's still ignorant, and messed up.

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

Yeah, oppression of different sexual minorities may have things in common but I'm getting tired of it all coming back to "this is just like oppression of gays and/or interracial marriages!" Even oppression of gays and interracial marriages is different, even though both are wrong.
I mean, both fall under the jurisdiction of "don't say I'm wrong for having a consensual adult relationship outside of social norms" but, for example, I don't think poly teenagers have been sent to mono-sexual reassignment camp.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you anon. I don't like fic that involves poly relationships, b/c I don't like that type of relationship personally. Not judging anyone who likes it, it's just not for me so I scroll on past. Luckily there's plenty of non-three way fic for my OTPs that this is never a hardship.

[amethyst-rei.livejournal.com]

I don't see how it could be. Just because someone doesn't like slash, for example, doesn't make them homophobic.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - It depends on the reasons, I think. If you can replace poly/whatever word used to describe it, with anything else and it becomes a bigoted statement? Then...yeah. It's prejudiced. If not, then I agree it's not.

My main question is...why was this so pressingly important that the OP had to post a secret about a fic not going how they want?

[amethyst-rei.livejournal.com]

Most of the secrets on F!S aren't "pressingly important", though. Most of the time it's just people expressing their disappointment or disgruntlement over something fandom-related. I don't find this secret out of place at all. If one of my slash fics ended up turning into, say, het, I'd want to rant, too.

[insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com]

That's a logical trap you don't want to fall into. There are many things that can be swapped to make something bigoted without it being prejudiced. Think for a second, I'm sure you can find one or two. I think your right in this instance, but that's a dangerous statement to make.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - I do hate all poly pairings.

However, hating something in fiction is a hell of a lot different than being prejudiced. OT3 fics are something so far from I could manage in real life, that it breaks the story for me. Especially because 90% of the time it seems to work out perfectly right from the start, even if all the characters are the jealous type. You got a problem with that or do you want to keep calling me prejudiced for hating stories where the dynamics are not something I can related to?

Oh wait, I forgot, you can't be supportive of LGBT unless you read gay pairings, right?

[(Anonymous)]

Especially because 90% of the time it seems to work out perfectly right from the start

And this isn't the exact description of most fluffy types of shipping?

Hey, you could read trans* fics too. We exist. :)